[Talk-GB] Tagging "Shared space" roads (Preston City Centre)

[Adam Snape]

The photo of Exhibition Rd on Wikipedia makes it look deserted. I guess it
is sensible to photograph a new road layout at a quiet time.  I actually
walked along it not so long ago when visiting a museum and it certainly
seemed to still be used by quite a lot of motor traffic. Not that I think
traffic volume should necessarily determine tagging, but examples such as
this, the primary roads in Poynton, anda couple of thoroughfares in
Preston, do rather weaken the comparison to Home Zones or woonerven. There
traffic would typically be very light, very slow and almost entirely for
access. The more I look at the above examples, the more I am convinced that
the presence of shared use design doesn't make these thoroughfares
comparable to living_streets

Adam

On 2 October 2017 at 08:56, Paul Berry <pmberry2007 at gmail.com> wrote:

> One of the most significant shared space street schemes in the country (at
> least, the one that got the most publicity) is Exhibition Road. Here's part
> of it: http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34401602 and it's mapped as
> living street even though it is not residential.
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exhibition_Road
>
> Should it be changed also?
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
> On 1 October 2017 at 23:17, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:
>
>> And here's a road that wants to be a shared space but isn't there yet...
>>
>>
>> https://www.facebook.com/NHnieuws/videos/1627424217288914/
>>
>> The goal of reducing the traffic speed has been achieved, apparently.
>>
>>
>> On 2017-10-01 20:16, Richard Mann wrote:
>>
>> The classic shared space scheme in Haren:
>>
>> http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/53.17312/6.60310
>>
>> has no tags that I can see.
>>
>> I'd go for something like shared_space=yes for the moment. It's a
>> "special" type of traffic calming.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 1, 2017 at 6:14 PM, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Just like in the UK, the councils here make it up as they go along; a
>>> "shared space" has no special legal status, unlike a "woonerf".
>>>
>>> A general principle which has proved its worth is that to make things
>>> safer, you remove the safety features. Like white lines and kerbs. Everyone
>>> moans a bit, but in the mean time you slow down and watch out just that
>>> little bit more... Hence shared spaces, an apparent free-for-all that works
>>> well.
>>>
>>> On 2017-10-01 18:57, Andy Townsend wrote:
>>>
>>> Not an answer, but a suggestion where there might be a bit more info...
>>>
>>> The Netherlands forum https://forum.openstreetmap.or
>>> g/viewforum.php?id=12 might be worth a read, since the shared space
>>> concept was pioneered there; https://forum.openstreetmap.or
>>> g/viewtopic.php?id=54843 is directly about "shared_space" but a search
>>> for "woonerf" (aka "home zone") gets a whole bunch more hits.
>>>
>>> Best Regards,
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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