[Talk-GB] vehicle barrier

Edward Catmur ecatmur at googlemail.com
Fri Aug 10 14:37:42 UTC 2018


If you don't like barrier=cycle_barrier, there's also barrier=chicane - I'd
consider barrier=cycle_barrier to be a subset of barrier=chicane. But then
you'd definitely need to provide comprehensive access tags.

On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 3:08 PM Edward Catmur <ecatmur at googlemail.com>
wrote:

>
> Oh, I'd map that as barrier=cycle_barrier without hesitation - it's even
> made of the archetypal aluminium tubing.
>
> The fact that it's across a road rather than a "path, footway, cycleway or
> track" is a pretty minor point compared to construction and intent. For
> prior art see e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2512940470 (visible
> on Bing at
> https://www.bing.com/maps?osid=d6b54d2c-03ad-4ada-8b8a-ef341a40ee71&cp=51.498781~-0.092815&lvl=19&dir=120.2292&pi=-6.162716&style=x&mo=z.0&v=2&sV=2&form=S00027
> - a bit more ornate, but that's Southwark, and Trinity Church Square is a
> conservation area).
>
> I don't think it matters that pedestrians can bypass it - it still retains
> its principal function of barring motor vehicles (and, presumably, slowing
> down cyclists).
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 1:36 PM Martin Wynne <martin at templot.com> wrote:
>
>>  > The description of barrier=cycle_barrier in the wiki looks like
>>  > it might be what you need, combined with appropriate access tags.
>>
>>  > I'd say that's a cycle barrier - the intention would be to allow
>>  > pedestrians to pass, force cyclists to dismount
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestions.
>>
>> For cycle_barrier the wiki says "barriers positioned along paths,
>> footways, cycleways or tracks".
>>
>> In this case it is none of those ways, it is a full width road with
>> vehicle access to both sides. But one side is private access and the
>> other is public access (from the other ends).
>>
>> I believe this barrier has been erected by the residents of the private
>> road, rather than the local authority. It's not clear what it achieves
>> which a conventional row of bollards would not.
>>
>> Here's the Google streetview:
>>
>>   https://goo.gl/maps/DGjTum7ynGE2
>>
>> (I haven't mapped it from Google, I actually walked through it
>> yesterday. :) )
>>
>> As you can see, it has been rendered totally ineffective for other than
>> motor vehicles by users pushing past one end. How do we map that?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Martin.
>>
>>
>>
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