[Talk-GB] GB does not include Northern Ireland

Dan S danstowell+osm at gmail.com
Tue Aug 28 20:10:37 UTC 2018

For reference, here's DaveF's email where he documents his mechanical
edit: <https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2018-August/021690.html>.
(Note also that it includes a note about Northern Ireland.)

Comparing that email against the OSM policy which Brian links to (the
Automated Edits Code of Conduct): This talk-gb seems indeed the
correct forum. The documentation happened after-the-fact rather than
in advance, as the AECoC demands. It seems relatively innocent in this
case given the consensus implied by previous threads (eg the ones
listed in DaveF's email), and I guess he took that as sufficient for
the "discussion period" - however, I agree it'd be much better to have
followed the automated-edits rules more closely, and given prior
notice of the actual edit with at least a few days' pause for
discussion. I'd have hoped the dissenters could have joined that
discussion (could we have notified them directly of the chance to join
in, just to be sure?).

I did an automated edit once, and although I was impatient at the lag
created by following the AECoC, the resulting clarity was a definite
good thing.


Op di 28 aug. 2018 om 20:25 schreef Brian Prangle <bprangle at gmail.com>:
> The last time I checked NI was still in a union with the UK and therefore suggesting that NI OSMers form a separate discussion  is very insensitive. As the community there is very upset and has not agreed to this change, having demonstrated very specific needs and separate treatment of these roads I suggest at the very least that the change is reverted for NI. Can I also suggest that all future mechanical edits that affect the WHOLE UK  (including NI) are discussed beforehand as required by  OSM policy before being unilaterally applied so that we can avoid situations like this
> Brian Prangle
> On Tue, 28 Aug 2018 at 13:05, WebMaster at Killyfole.org.uk <webmaster at killyfole.org.uk> wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>> As it has been pointed out to me on IRC that GB doesn't include Northern
>> Ireland, and I should keep my opinions to myself.  So having left the IRC
>> channel, I am now leaving this mailing list as well.
>> I will also be canceling my OSMUK membership or failing that, not renewing in
>> December 2018.  I can still be reached via OSM username:KDDA or on the Talk IE
>> mailing list.
>> Thanks to all who have helped me over the years,
>> Clive aka KDDA
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