[Talk-GB] Edits in Wales

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On 25/03/2018 21:49, Miguel Sevilla-Callejo wrote:
> ...
> Sorry to insist but you will undermine, especially, Welsh names, for a 
> generic rendering that uses "name" tags. Think about that.

Can you give a specific example of that?  Are you saying that "it's 
important to pretend that Welsh names are displayed even where they 
aren't used very often" by sticking them on the end of the more commonly 
used name?  The other way around (using Welsh in "name" because it is 
the most used name) presumably wouldn't "undermine ... Welsh names".  It 
could be that I'm completely misunderstanding what you're saying here 
but I really don't follow the argument at all.

>
> Of course, for me, it's a must to fill "name:cy" and "name:en" too.

That's great news - it'll allow maps like https://openstreetmap.cymru/ 
(and mine!) to render appropriate names in appropriate areas.


> On 25 March 2018 at 20:30, Curon Davies <curond at gmail.com 
> <mailto:curond at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>           * The fundamental problem is that there is no "name" which
>             is correct. In the medium term, as long as the name:cy and
>             name:en are correct then the value of "name" should become
>             less significant. Then it can be up to the user to decide
>             if they want to display English, Welsh or both (and if
>             both which language taking priority).
>
>     The problem currently, is that display choice isn't available.
>

I don't think that that's actually true - I can think of at least 3 
choices right now:

  * OSM "Standard map" (and a number of others), which just use the
    "name" tag:


https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/51.88362/-5.26565

  * Openstreetmap.cymru, which uses "name:cy":


https://openstreetmap.cymru?h=51.88397494833407&ll=-5.264972448348999&ch=17

  * Mine, that show one of "name:cy", "name:en", "name:ga" or "name"
    depending on location:


http://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=18&lat=51.883531&lon=-5.264898

and of course anyone making their own maps (Garmin etc.) can do whatever 
they want.

Best Regards,

Andy

PS: Apologies to Curon if his message wasn't meant for the list - I'm 
guessing that it was but that he's actually not subscribed yet and his 
reply went both to that and Miguel.
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