[Talk-GB] Wickham Market, Suffolk

[Stuart Reynolds]

My two pennyworth, FWIW…

The problem here is that it is very subjective. If you have a lot of small villages around a much larger place, the temptation may be to call that your local town - and this may be a reason why Wickham Market is called a town. Here in Southend-on-sea, we have around 270,000 inhabitants. We are definitely a town, not a city (despite many smaller places being cities - itself another thorny definition which I do NOT propose to get into). Yet older folk (including me, not that I am hideously old) still talk about going up to town when we mean going to London. Has London ever been a town? Not in any real sense, but it would be daft to use that “local usage” as an excuse to call London a town rather than a city.

We also attract mappers from outside of the UK. There are very real and genuine reasons why we have certain features mapped in certain ways, but to rummage around in the depths of British history to determine the charter status of towns, or explain the vagaries of the British governmental / administrative boundaries (historic counties, anyone?) just confuses everyone and makes mapping significantly more complicated than it needs to be.

I would support a simple, objective definition, based on population size.

Stuart

PS - Milton Keynes is, at one level, a village. It is one of the original villages that got swept up into the “New Town”, and is now just one of the many parts of Milton-Keynes-the-town. You can see it at https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/462753393.


On 7 Sep 2018, at 12:12, lester at lsces.co.uk<mailto:lester at lsces.co.uk> wrote:



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On 07/09/2018 11:25, Martin Wynne wrote:
>> If it were true, then almost every village would need 30mph repeater
>> signs throughout, as they wouldn't have enough lighting to count as a
>> built up area. In practice, though, they don't.
>
> Yes they do. At least all the villages I know have 30mph repeaters.
> Here's a couple at random:
>
>   https://goo.gl/maps/zMfNHUFTSW92
>
>   https://goo.gl/maps/N96GbyndYRB2

None of the villages round here do. Nor do any of those I've lived in
previously.

(Quoting crap on mobile clients!)
Broadway is still a village in my book, and had to sort speed limit signs when speeding tickets were found invalid. In some ways the facebook singular 'city' designation makes some sence.
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