[Talk-GB] Changing highway=ford to ford=yes.

Edward Catmur ecatmur at googlemail.com
Sun Jan 6 15:50:25 UTC 2019


It would seem a bit much to map the ford as an area unless both the river
and the highway away from the ford are mapped as areas. For the same reason
I wouldn't usually map a ford as a way unless the river is mapped as an
area.

Apropos of not much, I wonder whether the ford is relevant for water-based
routing along the river. Perhaps to canoes and hovercraft...

In any case the point where the highway intersects the thalweg should be
tagged with something to indicate that it is not in error. That is, where a
highway and a river cross there should either be a node tagged as a ford,
or either the river or the highway should be tagged as bridge or tunnel
(and there should be no node at the intersection).

With regard to the automated edit, I'd like to know:
- does this fix or solve anything (ie for data consumers), or is it just to
make data consistent?
- what are you doing to nodes that have both highway=ford and ford=*?
- what are you going to do to prevent more highway=ford nodes being created
in future?

On Sun, 6 Jan 2019, 14:25 Martin Wynne <martin at templot.com wrote:

> >> the same time you're writing your message in a combative and
> >> uncooperative tone that is increasing the likelihood of someone getting
> >> upset!
> >
> > Well, yes, I suppose I am. I'm gradually becoming irritated by the
> > increasing reluctance (verging on paranoia) to correcting erroneous
> > data.
>
> Well that depends on who decides it's erroneous?
>
>  From this page:
>
>   https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_Edits_code_of_conduct
>
> "Note also that documentation of tagging on the Wiki is not the final
> arbiter of 'correct' tagging."
>
> Treating a ford as a single node strikes me as a bit daft when if you
> zoom in on the map it clearly occupies a mappable area between the
> various property boundaries and the entry and exit points on the highway.
>
> We are instructed to "map what we see", and the fords in this area are
> definitely bigger than a single point such as a lamp-post or postbox. Is
> landuse=ford acceptable?
>
> cheers,
>
> Martin.
>
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