[Talk-GB] Tagging post towns and other addressing issues in the UK

Paul Berry pmberry2007 at gmail.com
Mon Jan 28 22:45:51 UTC 2019


Sorry, I only have yet more questions.

Once you get out into rural areas, it's sometimes the case that an entire
hamlet is covered by a one or two postcodes. There may be named streets but
according to RM/PAF these are ignored and such addresses take the form:
building name/number, locality, post town, postcode. The more natural fit,
following the structure prompted in the iD editor, for example, would be
building name/number, street, locality*, postcode.

*The locality suggested depends on how the area you're working in has been
mapped. Obviously when mapping you are free to override this.

HD8 8XU & HD8 8XY are a case in point. Do we map to fit the validator — in
this case, https://osm.mathmos.net/addresses/pc-stats/HD/HD8/8 which they
have fallen foul of — or something else?

Even in villages with established streets and house numbers, there will be
outlying properties where the street names will be foregone: S36 7GG is an
example of this.

Additionally, it's not clear whether name or addr:housename (or both)
should be used when mapping anything from a a detached house to a building
split into multiple addressable units (eg terraces, flats).

Regards,
*Paul*

On Mon, 28 Jan 2019 at 22:05, Richard Fairhurst <richard at systemed.net>
wrote:

> I'm not quite sure what you've done with the quoting but you've attributed
> me
> as writing your reply, which evidently I didn't. :)
>
> Will Phillips wrote:
> > I really don't see what is outlandish about using post towns as a
> > guide for what goes in the addr:city tag. Royal Mail might be becoming
> > less important, but when most people are asked for their address, they
> > will give their address as defined by Royal Mail.
> >
> > Looking at the Companies House Registered Companies data for
> > Charlbury, I find 235 addresses of which 170 include Chipping Norton.
> > I find Registered Companies data useful because the addresses appear
> > unvalidated and therefore show addresses as people actually enter them.
>
> No-one in Charlbury describes themselves as living in Chipping Norton.
> Honestly, no-one. It's a separate town.
>
> Companies House data for my company shows a registered address of 11 Market
> Street, Charlbury, Chipping Norton. That is not because I think I live in
> Chipping Norton. That is because, when you register a company, the
> Companies
> House autocomplete thing takes your postcode and fills in the Royal Mail
> post-town and other details from PAF.
>
> (TBH, I'm not entirely convinced post towns help Royal Mail in any case,
> given the amount of mail mistakenly delivered to us that is actually meant
> for Mr G------- at 11 Market Street, Chipping Norton...)
>
> Richard
>
>
>
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