[Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data

Silent Spike silentspike100 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 1 16:39:34 UTC 2019


Hey Tony,

Glad to hear I'm not the only person interested in using this data!

Wasn't aware of the conflation plugin, will have to give it a look now.
Always interested in collaboration, sounds like you've come to the same
conclusion as myself regarding getting import authorisation.

Cheers

On Mon, Jul 1, 2019 at 5:15 PM Tony Shield <tony.shield999 at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Spike
>
> I'm interested in importing my local area - Chorley, Lancashire.
>
> I've filtered the Naptan file to get Chorley csv file. I've then imported
> into JOSM conflation plug-in. I'm starting to understand how the conflation
> tool functions and I think the results are good. I've done several dry runs
> to get the technique correct. I'm planning to manually review each bus stop
> - not too bad when there are 3-400.
>
> I too am trying to realise what Naptan codes and fields need to be
> populated for each bus stop, and agree with following the PTv2 scheme.
>
> I haven't performed the import as I haven't been through the import
> authorisation process, and as Naptan is an established data import I think
> that it will not be too difficult as long as the process is correct.
>
> Happy to work with you if you wish.
>
> Regards
>
> TonyS999
>
>
> On 01/07/2019 16:02, Silent Spike wrote:
>
> Hey folks,
>
> I'm interested in importing NaPTAN bus stop data (
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/NaPTAN/Import) specifically for my
> area of the UK (Aberdeen).
>
> As far as I can tell, some progress was made previously on importing
> NaPTAN data for specific areas of the UK. However, the process for
> requesting an import on the wiki seems to have broken down somewhere along
> the line and I believe the python script mentioned on the wiki is outdated.
>
> I went ahead and wrote a 5 minute python 3 script to convert the NaPTAN
> csv bus stops file into OSM XML which I can import using JOSM. I'm
> splitting the data into files by local area - here's an example of an area
> I'm familiar with (https://i.imgur.com/xE7TF2c.png) where you can see the
> import data (blue) line up well with the existing data (black).
>
> My plan for conflation was basically to do it by hand since I'm familiar
> with the area and can take my time to do each local area individually.
> However, I could probably also set up some data matching by checking the
> stop names and offsets of existing data.
>
> As for tagging, I'm unsure what the current status is regarding the
> `naptan:` namespace. Looking at those tags, they all seem pretty useless to
> me (except `naptan:AtcoCode` as an identifier). Currently I'm just using
> roadside bus stops marked with a shelter or pole and following the PTv2
> scheme to tag them as `highway=bus_stop`, `public_transport_platform` and
> `bus=yes`.
>
> If anyone has any suggestions or input please let me know! Obviously I
> won't be importing anything without some community approval first.
>
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