[Talk-GB] Importing NaPTAN Data [Thread 2]

Stuart Reynolds stuart at travelinesoutheast.org.uk
Fri Jul 5 12:50:21 UTC 2019

If you wanted to conflate indicator and common name into the OSM “name” field, then I can provide a list of what we call “prefix indicators” as opposed to “suffix indicators”. It’s fairly self-explanatory, as prefix indicators are generally those that are positional e.g. o/s, opp, adj, nr etc. For example, Stuart Close / opp -> “opp Stuart Close", whereas the suffix ones are not e.g. Bus Station / Bay 8 -> "Bus Station (Bay 8)”

Stuart Reynolds
for traveline south east and anglia

On 5 Jul 2019, at 13:40, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com<mailto:ajt1047 at gmail.com>> wrote:

On 05/07/2019 13:19, Silent Spike wrote:
On Fri, Jul 5, 2019 at 1:02 PM Gareth L <o.i at live.co.uk<mailto:o.i at live.co.uk>> wrote:
Forgive me if this is silly question/statement, but the adj/alt names etc are in the naptan dataset. Wouldn’t it be better to have the link made between the stop in OSM and the record in naptan (using the codes prior mentioned).
My thinking is data consumers could link and retrieve values using that. Merging the extra data values again might potentially develop discrepancies over time.

I’d think the atco code is unique and (hopefully) not reused, but the alt names etc could be modified over time.

A perfectly valid question and something I wonder also.

For example, the indicator field is somewhat meaningless to a data consumer unless they know what it represents as per the NaPTAN schema - so perhaps it's best left out of the OSM data?

FWIW I did actually append that to name when displaying those because it "looked useful" (to append to the name and distinguish between other identically named stops):


As to the original question "Would there be any objections to an import of the following scope" - certainly not from me.  I wouldn't personally use the PTv2 "platform" tag but its presence doesn't break anything.

The most interesting bit would be the "Manually conflate and review the data before upload using JOSM" - any JOSM CSS style that you end up using to highlight duplicates would be really useful, as would a basic OSM diary entry describing the process and the end result.

Best Regards,


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