[Talk-GB] TfL Cycling Infrastructure Database

[Tom Hughes]

Whether we want it is not really the issue.

I believe the issue is the licensing, and until that is resolved
what we may or may not want is irrelevant.

Tom

On 11/06/2019 10:11, Tony Shield wrote:
> Hi
> 
> Looking at the demo I can't think of a reason why OSM would not want 
> this data - I believe we do want this data.
> 
> Questions I have -
> 
>   * Are the tags suitable for a global database? Can and should they be
>     reused elsewhere in UK? or globally? Is there a need for specific
>     prefixed TfL tags?
>   * Are there clashes with other cycling data in London?  What is a
>     resolution strategy?
>   * Will import and integration be performed by automatic processing?
>     Usual OSM import rules? Clash detection and sanity checking?
> 
> Regards
> 
> Tony - TonyS999
> 
> On 10/06/2019 23:13, Martin Lucas-Smith - CycleStreets wrote:
>>
>>
>> The demonstrator map showing this data from TfL now has an extensive 
>> set of filters for each feature type:
>>
>> https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/
>>
>> E.g. for cycle lane/track, you can now filter for segregated, shared, 
>> prority at sideroads, full/part time, mandatory, stepped track, etc.
>>
>> These filters match the schema definition at:
>> https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/TfL_CID_Schema.pdf
>>
>> There are also a lot more images loaded now.
>>
>> My general impression is that the data does seem very accurate. I 
>> would welcome more eyes on this, and thoughts generally on the use of 
>> this data in OSM. Hopefully the filtering will make this easier to 
>> find various kinds of infrastructure.
>>
>> I am about to circulate a suggested mapping of the TfL data to OSM 
>> equivalents, where equivalent tags exist, for comments.
>>
>>
>> NB The new filtering controls have a couple of URL persistency bugs - 
>> I'll mop these up shortly. So please be aware of this if sending a link.
>>
>>
>> Martin,                     **  CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By Cyclists
>> Developer, CycleStreets     ** https://www.cyclestreets.net/
>>
>>
>> On Fri, 10 May 2019, Martin Lucas-Smith - CycleStreets wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Transport for London (TfL) have created a new database of cycling 
>>> infrastructure, containing 240,000 assets, covering all of Greater 
>>> London.
>>>
>>> This groundbreaking database contains every cycle infrastructure 
>>> asset within Greater London, including assets on and off-carriageway. 
>>> The assets surveyed are: cycle parking; signals; signage; traffic 
>>> calming measures; restricted points (e.g. steps); advanced stop 
>>> lines; crossings; cycle lanes/tracks; and restricted routes (e.g. 
>>> pedestrian only routes).
>>>
>>> TfL is keen to make this available to the OpenStreetMap community 
>>> under a compatible open license, to ensure maximum use of the CID. 
>>> TfL is also potentially willing to consider tool development to help 
>>> facilitate sensitive merging in of this data.
>>>
>>> There is a new Wiki page, giving full details, at:
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/TfL_Cycling_Infrastructure_Database
>>>
>>>
>>> Demonstrator map:
>>> -----------------
>>>
>>> A demonstrator map, for the purposes only of evaluation by the OSM 
>>> community at this stage, has been created by CycleStreets.
>>>
>>> This demonstrator map contains only one of the 25 areas that have 
>>> been surveyed.
>>>
>>> We are specifically seeking comments on data quality and usefulness 
>>> of this data from the OSM community. Initial analysis by CycleStreets 
>>> is that the data is of excellent quality, and very suitable for 
>>> conflation into OSM, to increase both comprehensiveness and metadata 
>>> quality.
>>>
>>> https://tflcid.cyclestreets.net/
>>> (Use the controls on the right to change feature type.)
>>>
>>> Usage notes: The controls on the right of the map allow the different 
>>> feature types to be selected. The OSM layer (available at zoom level 
>>> 19+) also provides a live feed from the OSM API, to enable quick 
>>> comparisons. The two photos of each asset are in the process of being 
>>> supplied; those already available and cleared in GDPR terms are 
>>> included in the popup.
>>>
>>> It is stressed that at this point, no permission is given for re-use 
>>> of the data in any way, but TfL strongly intends to make this 
>>> available in future. All 25 areas would be covered in the final data 
>>> release, not merely the one shown currently in the demonstrator map.
>>>
>>>
>>> Feedback is very strongly encouraged, as soon as possible. What are 
>>> people's thoughts?
>>>
>>>
>>> Martin,                     **  CycleStreets - For Cyclists, By Cyclists
>>> Developer, CycleStreets     ** https://www.cyclestreets.net/
>>>
>>>
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