[Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

Jez Nicholson jez.nicholson at gmail.com
Thu Mar 7 14:19:47 UTC 2019


I'm also wondering whether you should exclude Service Roads as it indicates
an access road with no name, e.g.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/225081816

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
wrote:

> I randomly found 2 good examples:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/634592359 and
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/478481882 which are both new housing
> estates....which would fit why a road with a lot of houses is unnamed. They
> may have been mapped prior to them receiving official road names.
>
> The case that Greg already noted, mobile home parks, e.g.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230945815 may have road names but are
> sometimes private property and not accessible to mappers.
>
> Perhaps there is extra processing that could classify them?
>
> On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:57 PM Gregory Marler <info at nomoregrapes.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Oisin,
>>
>> I've taken a very quick look at this spreadsheet (oops, getting
>> distracted from work).
>>
>> 1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names?
>> 2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more
>> localised aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at
>> least having latitude and longitude in separate columns makes it easier to
>> use in other tools usually.
>> 3) There's some obvious reasons why some of those aren't in OSM just by
>> looking at the first 5.
>> 3a) One was on a caravan park, so it might not have an official name or
>> even a sign (again I would like to question the source).
>> 3b) A way was about 3 metres to connect one road to another, it's
>> debatable whether it should be named itself but could be fixed without a
>> survey.
>> 3c) There are lots of abbreviated names in your spreadsheet, even "Clos"
>> which I presume is a strange shortening of "Close".
>>
>> A Maproulette challenge might tempt people to copy the names from your
>> spreadsheet (the legality and suitability of that is very unknown!).
>>
>> All the best from Chester-le-Street,
>> Gregory.
>>
>>
>> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 13:38, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via
>> Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello again,
>>>
>>> Wondering if there was any discussion on the previously submitted
>>> question, which is inline below? Happy to elaborate anyway I can where
>>> there is any ambiguity 🙂
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Oisin
>>>
>>> ------------------------------
>>> *From:* Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)
>>> *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2019 12:47 PM
>>> *To:* talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
>>> *Subject:* Road name contradictions in the UK
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Everyone,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Our Open Maps team (https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps
>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmicrosoft%2Fopen-maps&data=02%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5f43e39d0d63417ee38408d68d2e9a4b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636851628660533805&sdata=fQkRtSQ0jQaJ7s7fWg23NervMF7yX3SGJxEwANMTOIM%3D&reserved=0>)
>>> has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may
>>> have seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s
>>> ongoing OSM work in Australia.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be
>>> missing names along with the name that we *suspect* should be there. We
>>> are not 100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to
>>> these areas we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks
>>> that know these areas we could use your help closing these gaps.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The complete list is available here:
>>>
>>> https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw
>>> <https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F1drv.ms%2Fx%2Fs!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw&data=02%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5f43e39d0d63417ee38408d68d2e9a4b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636851628660543799&sdata=mHI1fOL4xJFNZTL%2BRcpoVlsg5hFQHJSJUEwCaXjHmtY%3D&reserved=0>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of
>>> residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create
>>> a Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Oisin
>>>
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/herriotto
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
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