[Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

Thu Mar 7 21:25:22 UTC 2019

Some roads tagged service look like reasonable candidates:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/346182691
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From: Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
Sent: 07 March 2019 14:19
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

I'm also wondering whether you should exclude Service Roads as it indicates an access road with no name, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/225081816

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com<mailto:jez.nicholson at gmail.com>> wrote:
I randomly found 2 good examples: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/634592359 and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/478481882 which are both new housing estates....which would fit why a road with a lot of houses is unnamed. They may have been mapped prior to them receiving official road names.

The case that Greg already noted, mobile home parks, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230945815 may have road names but are sometimes private property and not accessible to mappers.

Perhaps there is extra processing that could classify them?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:57 PM Gregory Marler <info at nomoregrapes.com<mailto:info at nomoregrapes.com>> wrote:
Hi Oisin,

I've taken a very quick look at this spreadsheet (oops, getting distracted from work).

1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names?
2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more localised aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at least having latitude and longitude in separate columns makes it easier to use in other tools usually.
3) There's some obvious reasons why some of those aren't in OSM just by looking at the first 5.
3a) One was on a caravan park, so it might not have an official name or even a sign (again I would like to question the source).
3b) A way was about 3 metres to connect one road to another, it's debatable whether it should be named itself but could be fixed without a survey.
3c) There are lots of abbreviated names in your spreadsheet, even "Clos" which I presume is a strange shortening of "Close".

A Maproulette challenge might tempt people to copy the names from your spreadsheet (the legality and suitability of that is very unknown!).

All the best from Chester-le-Street,
Gregory.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 13:38, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org<mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
Hello again,

Wondering if there was any discussion on the previously submitted question, which is inline below? Happy to elaborate anyway I can where there is any ambiguity 🙂

Thanks,
Oisin

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From: Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:47 PM
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Subject: Road name contradictions in the UK

Hi Everyone,

Our Open Maps team (https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2Fmicrosoft%2Fopen-maps&data=02%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5f43e39d0d63417ee38408d68d2e9a4b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636851628660533805&sdata=fQkRtSQ0jQaJ7s7fWg23NervMF7yX3SGJxEwANMTOIM%3D&reserved=0>) has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may have seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s ongoing OSM work in Australia.

We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be missing names along with the name that we suspect should be there. We are not 100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to these areas we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks that know these areas we could use your help closing these gaps.

The complete list is available here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw<https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2F1drv.ms%2Fx%2Fs!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw&data=02%7C01%7Cv-oiher%40microsoft.com%7C5f43e39d0d63417ee38408d68d2e9a4b%7C72f988bf86f141af91ab2d7cd011db47%7C1%7C0%7C636851628660543799&sdata=mHI1fOL4xJFNZTL%2BRcpoVlsg5hFQHJSJUEwCaXjHmtY%3D&reserved=0>

These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create a Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?

Thanks,

Oisin

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