[Talk-GB] Farmland (crop or animals)?
Warin
61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri May 24 23:36:16 UTC 2019
Humm What is it that needs to be tagged? Possibly some sub tags for
tillage=yes/no/yearly/* ? to indicate if ploughed and if known how
frequently
produce:category=animal/plant to indicate the broad group of produce?
This could then be applied to any 'landuse' ... no matter how it is tagged.
On 25/05/19 06:57, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote:
> Fair enough, I agree that a wildflower meadow is a very pleasant place
> to be. However, I would still be more concerned to avoid the
> unpleasantness of walking through cropland where the path is variously
> ploughed under, utterly obscured by wheat or maize, or in the best
> case surfaced with heavy clay that clings to one's shoes or boots.
>
> On Fri, 24 May 2019, 16:22 Philip Barnes, <phil at trigpoint.me.uk
> <mailto:phil at trigpoint.me.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>
> On Friday, 24 May 2019, SK53 wrote:
> > As a walker I appreciate walking through a real hay meadow full of
> > attractive flowers rather than a sterile green desert of rye grass.
>
> And as a walker a real meadow is a very nice place to sit down and
> enjoy a relaxing lunch or coffee break.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> > Dudley Ibbett made this point long ago about the Peak District. The
> > difference is roughly equivalent to walking through a dark
> lifeless spruce
> > plantation and an ancient oak wood.
> >
> > As a naturalist these precious remnants are pretty much the only
> places
> > where many flowers, insects and birds are likely to be seen.
> >
> > Jerry
> >
> > On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 11:59, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB <
> > talk-gb at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
> >
> > > As a walker, the most important distinction in agricultural
> land (not
> > > including orchards) is whether it is tilled or otherwise
> reduced to bare
> > > earth, or whether grass is allowed to establish permanent root
> systems. How
> > > long or varied the grass is allowed to get really doesn't
> concern me,
> > > especially as that can change in a matter of months after a
> wet spring or
> > > an enthusiastic flock of sheep have been through. The exact
> terminology
> > > used doesn't really concern me, but where I grew up "meadow"
> was the
> > > colloquial term for pasture, even close cropped grass.
> > >
> > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:07 AM Andy Townsend
> <ajt1047 at gmail.com <mailto:ajt1047 at gmail.com>> wrote:
> > >
> > >> On 24/05/2019 10:43, Gregory Marler wrote:
> > >> > What is going on with landuse=farmland, and what are we
> going to do?
> > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland
> > >> >
> > >> With regard to tagging, I agree with a lot of what you say
> there, but I
> > >> suspect that the first thing to do is to talk to the wiki
> editor about
> > >> it. It may be that they thought that they were just changing
> the wiki
> > >> in line with actual usage, it may be that they've actually
> discussed it
> > >> with lots of other people elsewhere first (just not visible
> at first
> > >> glance to me).
> > >>
> > >> For international tagging discussions the tagging list is
> probably the
> > >> best* mailing list, but it's probably worth also mentioning
> on the wiki
> > >> talk page for the tag too (and maybe the talk page for the
> wiki editor).
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards,
> > >>
> > >> Andy
> > >>
> > >> * or maybe "least worst" - there's a discussion there about
> how terrible
> > >> mailing list discussions are compared to controlled spaces on the
> > >> tagging list at the moment - but that's more to do with what
> happens
> > >> when people who don't agree (and don't even agree how to talk
> about
> > >> things) encounter people who don't agree with each other.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> _______________________
>
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