[Talk-GB] Farmland (crop or animals)?

Warin 61sundowner at gmail.com
Fri May 24 23:36:16 UTC 2019


Humm What is it that needs to be tagged? Possibly some sub tags for

tillage=yes/no/yearly/* ? to indicate if ploughed and if known how 
frequently

produce:category=animal/plant to indicate the broad group of produce?

This could then be applied to any 'landuse' ... no matter how it is tagged.


On 25/05/19 06:57, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB wrote:
> Fair enough, I agree that a wildflower meadow is a very pleasant place 
> to be. However, I would still be more concerned to avoid the 
> unpleasantness of walking through cropland where the path is variously 
> ploughed under, utterly obscured by wheat or maize, or in the best 
> case surfaced with heavy clay that clings to one's shoes or boots.
>
> On Fri, 24 May 2019, 16:22 Philip Barnes, <phil at trigpoint.me.uk 
> <mailto:phil at trigpoint.me.uk>> wrote:
>
>
>
>     On Friday, 24 May 2019, SK53 wrote:
>     > As a walker I appreciate walking through a real hay meadow full of
>     > attractive flowers rather than a sterile green desert of rye grass.
>
>     And as a walker a real meadow is a very nice place to sit down and
>     enjoy a relaxing lunch or coffee break.
>
>     Phil (trigpoint)
>
>     > Dudley Ibbett made this point long ago about the Peak District. The
>     > difference is roughly equivalent to walking through a dark
>     lifeless spruce
>     > plantation and an ancient oak wood.
>     >
>     > As a naturalist these precious remnants are pretty much the only
>     places
>     > where many flowers, insects and birds are likely to be seen.
>     >
>     > Jerry
>     >
>     > On Fri, 24 May 2019 at 11:59, Edward Catmur via Talk-GB <
>     > talk-gb at openstreetmap.org <mailto:talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
>     >
>     > > As a walker, the most important distinction in agricultural
>     land (not
>     > > including orchards) is whether it is tilled or otherwise
>     reduced to bare
>     > > earth, or whether grass is allowed to establish permanent root
>     systems. How
>     > > long or varied the grass is allowed to get really doesn't
>     concern me,
>     > > especially as that can change in a matter of months after a
>     wet spring or
>     > > an enthusiastic flock of sheep have been through. The exact
>     terminology
>     > > used doesn't really concern me, but where I grew up "meadow"
>     was the
>     > > colloquial term for pasture, even close cropped grass.
>     > >
>     > > On Fri, May 24, 2019 at 11:07 AM Andy Townsend
>     <ajt1047 at gmail.com <mailto:ajt1047 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > >
>     > >> On 24/05/2019 10:43, Gregory Marler wrote:
>     > >> > What is going on with landuse=farmland, and what are we
>     going to do?
>     > >> > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dfarmland
>     > >> >
>     > >> With regard to tagging, I agree with a lot of what you say
>     there, but I
>     > >> suspect that the first thing to do is to talk to the wiki
>     editor about
>     > >> it.  It may be that they thought that they were just changing
>     the wiki
>     > >> in line with actual usage, it may be that they've actually
>     discussed it
>     > >> with lots of other people elsewhere first (just not visible
>     at first
>     > >> glance to me).
>     > >>
>     > >> For international tagging discussions the tagging list is
>     probably the
>     > >> best* mailing list, but it's probably worth also mentioning
>     on the wiki
>     > >> talk page for the tag too (and maybe the talk page for the
>     wiki editor).
>     > >>
>     > >> Best Regards,
>     > >>
>     > >> Andy
>     > >>
>     > >> * or maybe "least worst" - there's a discussion there about
>     how terrible
>     > >> mailing list discussions are compared to controlled spaces on the
>     > >> tagging list at the moment - but that's more to do with what
>     happens
>     > >> when people who don't agree (and don't even agree how to talk
>     about
>     > >> things) encounter people who don't agree with each other.
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >>
>     > >> _______________________
>

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