[Talk-GB] Fwd: Re: Name Suggestion Index

Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Wed Nov 6 13:35:04 UTC 2019


My local Hotel Chocolate is also a cafe.
 
Phil (trigpoint)
 
> On Wednesday, 6 November 2019, Paul Berry wrote:
> > Continuing with the Hotel Chocolat example, it could well be the case that
> > most are tagged with shop=confectionery because that was the nearest-fit
> > tag that was suggested when each was initially mapped. If the more precise
> > tag of shop=chocolate is now available we should make adjustments so that
> > iD suggests this as an "upgrade" the next time someone is making an edit in
> > or around one of them. Some of their shops offer a cafe/restaurant service
> > as well, which should be suggested as a second tier of tags.
> > 
> > Yours chocolatey,
> > *Paul*
> > 
> > On Wed, 6 Nov 2019 at 10:14, Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > AFAIK 'The Range' has not got an entry. You can enter it in the Tag Text
> > > field with/without 'gb' in the Country Code on https://nsi.guide
> > >
> > > To me, the big question is: how do we adequately consult the community so
> > > that we feel that the GB entries are appropriate?
> > >
> > > Depending on github/dev abilities individuals can either create their own
> > > fork/pull request. We also have an OSMUK fork that group work could be done
> > > on. Or evidence could be added to
> > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Retail_chains_in_the_United_Kingdom and
> > > Talk-GB can be consulted...a number of things are possible. But ultimately,
> > > I would like "the community" to feel that the changes are ours.
> > >
> > > There are a number of minor decisions involved, e.g. is Hotel Chocolat
> > > a shop=confectionery or the newer shop=chocolate. Overpass Turbo says 50
> > > the former, 13 the latter. Retail_chains_in_the_United_Kingdom
> > > says shop=confectionery so that is what the NSI says.
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 5, 2019 at 7:38 PM Gareth L <o.i at live.co.uk> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Curious as to what is selected for branches of The Range. That was
> > >> recently highlighted as being tricky to categorise.
> > >>
> > >> Gareth
> > >>
> > >> > On 6 Nov 2019, at 07:51, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
> > >> robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> >
> > >> > On Tue, 5 Nov 2019 at 08:24, Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >> >> I was wondering how iD (and Vespucci) decides what to offer as brands
> > >> when I create a new feature, or when it suggests something like "Ibis looks
> > >> like a brand with incomplete tags". The answer is the
> > >> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Name_Suggestion_Index (NSI) ...now
> > >> detailed on a wiki page that I created.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> The NSI is a github repository, so updates and editions can be
> > >> suggested. This can be done via your own fork or on the OSMUK fork. I'm not
> > >> sure what will work best for us yet.
> > >> >
> > >> > I stumbled across the NSI myself a couple of months ago, while looking
> > >> > to add brand tags to shops in my local area though iD. I've been
> > >> > collecting a list of missing UK brands (or at least ones that iD
> > >> > didn't suggest) and also some potential errors (e.g. where it's
> > >> > assumed all shops of a certain brand have a specific shop tag, when in
> > >> > reality there can be some variation in the types of outlets). What I
> > >> > haven't looked into yet is the mechanics of how to suggest
> > >> > adding/correcting entries and what other info is needed for each one.
> > >> > (Submitting github issues and pull requests for each individual brand
> > >> > seems like a lot of effort on the face of it -- but maybe that's what
> > >> > you need to do.)
> > >> >
> > >> > In case anyone is interested in adding these, or providing details of
> > >> > how to do it, here's the list of missing brands that I've collected so
> > >> > far (some may have been added since I started collecting):
> > >> >
> > >> >  Animal (Clothes)
> > >> >  Barnado's (charity)
> > >> >  Bill's (retaurant)
> > >> >  Bon Marché (clothes)
> > >> >  Byron (restaurant/burgers)
> > >> >  Café Rouge (restaurant)
> > >> >  Card Factory (cards)
> > >> >  Fred Olsen Travel (travel_agent)
> > >> >  Hughes (electrical goods)
> > >> >  Johnsons (dry_cleaning)
> > >> >  Jones the Bootmaker (shoes)
> > >> >  Mr. Shoes (shoes)
> > >> >  Muffin Break (Cafe)
> > >> >  Scrivens (optician)
> > >> >  Timpson (key-cutting / shoe_repair)
> > >> >  The Perfume Shop (perfumery)
> > >> >  Topman / Topshop (clothes)
> > >> >  TUI (travel_agency)
> > >> >  William H Brown (estate_agent)
> > >> >  YMCA (charity shop)
> > >> >  Yours (clothes)
> > >> >
> > >> > And here are the one I think there are problems with:
> > >> >
> > >> >  Greggs (allow amenity=cafe or shop=bakery or both)
> > >> >  Clintons (should recognise shop=cards as well as shop=gift when
> > >> > suggesting 'upgrades' in iD)
> > >> >
> > >> > Best wishes,
> > >> >
> > >> > Robert.
> > >> >
> > >> > --
> > >> > Robert Whittaker
> > >> >
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