[Talk-GB] Import of UK SSSI data

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 16:32 +0000, Henry Bush wrote:
> Hmmm, I see. I'll dig further into the licensing side of things
> before I go any further.
> Thanks for the pointers!

Also, once copyright issues are overcome, you will need to ensure that
any import merges data sensibly with existing objects.
A quick look at the data, and most of the local ones are in OSM
although a few I had not realised were SSIs and the boundaries mapped
are what is verifiable on the ground.
Also care needs to be taken with cross border SSIs, mapping the English
part as a separate object would not make sense, nobody thinks in those
terms and signage/leaflets consider it as a single entity.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/52.9215/-2.7651 id="-x-evo-selection-start-marker">
Phil (trigpoint)



> On Sat, 16 Nov 2019, 16:28 Chris Hill, <osm at raggedred.net> wrote:
> >   
> >     
> >   
> >   
> >     I think there may be a problem here. The web page describing
> > the
> >       data says "© Natural England copyright. Contains Ordnance
> > Survey
> >       data". Many public bodies suffer from the viral OS copyright
> >       problem, where the data is based on OS mapping data and OS
> > have
> >       claimed copyright over the geodata element of such data in
> > the
> >       past.
> >     You need to be sure this is not the case before you use any of
> >       these datasets in OSM.
> >     -- cheersChris Hill (chillly)
> > 
> >     On 16/11/2019 15:30, Henry Bush wrote:
> > 
> >     
> >     
> > >       
> > >       Sorry, yes, the source of the data is the Natural
> > >         England API: 
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         
> > > https://www.arcgis.com/home/item.html?id=f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         
> > > https://naturalengland-defra.opendata.arcgis.com/datasets/f10cbb4425154bfda349ccf493487a80_0/
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         The data is freely usable, so there shouldn't be any
> > >           licensing issues.
> > >       
> > >       
> > > 
> > >       
> > >         On Sat, 16 Nov 2019 at 15:24,
> > >           Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk> wrote:
> > > 
> > >         
> > >         
> > > > What
> > > >           is the source of the data you are planning to import?
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           Remember wikipedia is not a useable source under OSM
> > > > licensing
> > > >           terms.
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           Phil (trigpoint)
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           
> > > > 
> > > >           On Sat, 2019-11-16 at 15:12 +0000, Henry Bush wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >           > Hello all,
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           > (I've sent this to both the talk-gb and imports
> > > > mailing
> > > >           lists)
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           > This is just a heads-up: I'm thinking about
> > > > importing the
> > > >           data about
> > > > 
> > > >           > UK SSSI areas into openstreetmap. 
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Site_of_Special_Scientific_Interest
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           > I've had a quick look at a few, and none of them
> > > > seemed
> > > >           to be marked
> > > > 
> > > >           > on the map. If I go ahead with the import, I'd do a
> > > > much
> > > >           more
> > > > 
> > > >           > thorough investigation first. This mail is simply a
> > > >           prompt for
> > > > 
> > > >           > discussion as to whether people think it's a good
> > > > idea.
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           > At the moment I'm still in the research phase. I've
> > > >           started
> > > > 
> > > >           > collecting related links on a wiki page:
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           >   
> > > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spookypeanut/SSSIBot
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           > NB: this page is really just bookmarks for me at
> > > > this
> > > >           stage. If I go
> > > > 
> > > >           > ahead I'll make a proper, more informative page.
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > > 
> > > >           > Cheers,
> > > > 
> > > >           > 
> > > 
> > >       
> > >     
> > 
> >     
> > 
> >   
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