[Talk-GB] Sustrans & OSM

Jez Nicholson jez.nicholson at gmail.com
Thu Oct 10 10:56:10 UTC 2019


Hi Ed,

Good to see you lobbying on behalf of OSM. If they get really interested
and you want to hook the national level organisation then give us a shout
at OSMUK.

BTW, where is 'local' for you?

Looking on the bright side. Arguments *for* using OSM:
1. They/volunteers/helpers can add/edit locations that other mapping
agencies might not be interested in, or might take a while to include
2. Creating and managing your own GIS infrastructure costs time, effort,
and money
3. Other people are starting to trust OSM as a source, e.g. National Trust
4. Cycle maps often use OSM data
5. The data is somewhere where people can get hold of it if the want to

Overpass Turbo is useful for querying http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/MZy and it
has options to export or create a map.

This is the type of activity that could end up as an OSMUK Quarterly
Project and/or a specific tool could be built.

That wiki page is mostly from 2009. It would be good to update it.

Regards,
             Jez

On Thu, Oct 10, 2019 at 12:26 AM Dave F via Talk-GB <
talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> I've had the occasional limited discussions on social media. Arguments
> against using OSM fall into
>
> 1. Claim of no cost to use OS data as it's via local authority licensing.
> Unsure if it's all LAs
> 2. They "wanted to use mapping that had 100% reliable data for the users
> benefit."
> 3. Mild resentment at being informed they may not be using the best
> solution.
>
> Can you check if they have a sponsorship agreement with OS?
>
> DaveF
>
> On 09/10/2019 17:31, Edward Bainton wrote:
>
> Hi all
>
> I'm meeting the local Sustrans office next week as they've asked me to
> compile a 'map' of the NCN mileposts in my area (I think they really mean
> an inventory with locator maps).
>
> Obviously I'll be using OSM, and trying to get them to see the benefits of
> doing the same. OSM seems to be largely unknown in the local office.
>
> 1. Does anyone know *any history of engaging with Sustrans*, to inform my
> lobbying?
> There's mention on the wiki<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network#Tagging_information> <https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_National_Cycle_Network#Tagging_information>
> of
> them making milepost locations available for mapping - but that's a long
> time ago now.
>
> 2. Here's a sample page<https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3d686qnu77t0mz/Millennium%20milepost%20Compilation.doc.pdf?dl=0> <https://www.dropbox.com/s/c3d686qnu77t0mz/Millennium%20milepost%20Compilation.doc.pdf?dl=0>
> of what they sent me as a precedent.
> *Any suggestions for how to leverage OSM's capabilities to improve it?*
> I ask as a non-techie. My own thoughts: put it online & wikify; 'live'
> locator maps updating as OSM changes; filterable by NCN route.
>
> Thanks as ever
>
> Edward / eteb3
>
>
>
>
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