[Talk-GB] FIXME/fixme/OSm Notes Quarterly Project

[Andy Townsend]

On 21/10/2019 10:53, Mateusz Konieczny wrote:
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> 21 Oct 2019, 11:46 by bprangle at gmail.com:
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>     Hi everyone
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>     So  far according tothe taginfo script we've managed to ADD 415
>     fixmes and remove 84 FIXMEs. I don't have data yet on OSM Notes.
>     Don't know what's going on here with the increase when the aim of
>     the project is to reduce the numbers by fixing the issues
>     indicated nad thereby improve the qualit yof the data.
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> In my typical mapping surveys, even targeted at fixing fixmes and 
> closing notes I often add more
> than close.

Same here.  To add to what Mateusz has already said, all notes and 
fixmes are not alike though - what was originally one note "all the 
shops are missing here" might become two for two bits of minor details 
that need checking, after adding all the rest.


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> I would also compare with previous months - maybe previously people 
> were adding say 400 fixmes/month
> and removing 10/month?

I don't have data for the whole UK, but do have numbers for "OSM notes" 
and "fixme tags" for a couple of areas going back at least a couple of 
years.  If people are interested I could pull the numbers together.


>     Should we be converting fixmes to OSM Notes -will this give the
>     occasional mapper more chance of seeing them and adding detail or
>     fixing them?
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Please no!  We already see examples of people closing notes because they 
don't want them to "clutter them map" and there have been "notes wars" 
in a couple of places around the world.

A significant number (probably most?) OSM notes and fixme tags need 
local knowledge or an on-the-ground survey, so an occasional mapper 
simply isn't going to be able to resolve them.  A mapper who is visiting 
somewhere new and actively wants to look for OSM notes and fixme tags 
can do that already, however they are represented.

Where it probably isn't worth adding fixme tags would be just drawing 
attention to some other missing data.  For example, a few years ago 
every house in Reading* had "fixme=add precise address" on it, which 
meant that to get a useful list of things that needed fixing there you 
had to explicitly filter those out to get a list, and then add one more 
item "collect housenumbers".  The same issue with OSM notes would be 
even more of a problem given that OSM notes are more visible than fixme 
tags.

Best Regards,

Andy

* See https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/98977855/history for an 
example.  It's worth noting that the house numbers and later postcodes 
did get added - you'd need to ask the person who did that whether the 
"fixme" tag was a factor here.  They certainly deserve a big pat on the 
back for adding all that data.



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