[Talk-GB] Showgrounds (tagging)

Ian Caldwell ian1caldwell+OSM at googlemail.com
Wed Sep 4 20:10:24 UTC 2019


For the  Three Counties Showground in Malvern
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35432806 is tagged with
landuse=commercial. Any given the number of events there most of which are
commercial. Commercial would be correct. That how the NEC is mapped
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/243830271.

Ian


On Wed, 4 Sep 2019 at 20:55, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I just came across <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161362655> an
> agricultural showground tagged as leisure=park and realised I didn't know
> what a sensible way to retag it would be. Although there are a limited
> number in the UK (perhaps 100 or so) they do tend to be quite prominent and
> when major events take place at them (e.g., Scout Jamborees, National
> Eisteddfod) good tagging can be useful. I recall Richard Bullock mapping
> the Royal Cheshire quite a few years ago as it helped parents pick up their
> children after the scout Jamboree.
>
> Various (inconsistent) approaches have been used:
>
> * Newark <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/178396540> & Norfolk
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40942963> mapped as tourism=attraction
> * Rutland <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/547075306> as
> leisure=recreation_ground (there are certainly sports pitches here out of
> events)
> * Royal Cheshire <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/67375462> as
> amenity=showground with landuse=grass.
>
> It strikes me that how grounds are a special type of events venue and
> perhaps rather than using amenity=showground it may be better to use
> amenity=events_venue with a subtag events_venue=showground. leisure &
> tourism tags may still be applicable, and landuse=grass can still be (mis-)
> used to show the area (see Newark & Royal Cheshire). Alternatives might be
> amenity=exhibition_centre, but this seems more for places like the NEC. The
> current wiki description circumscribes events venues fairly closely, so
> this would be an extension in meaning.
>
> I don't think anything in the UK (or Europe) is quite on the scale of the Minnesota
> State Fair <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/39662664> which certainly
> merits tourism=attraction.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jerry
>
> Any thoughts,
>
> Jerry
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