[Talk-GB] Q2 2020 Quarterly project GP Surgeries and health sites

[SK53]

My local two Boots are:

a) a dedicated pharmacy (with limited OTC pharmaceutical products)
associated with the GP practice (which is huge, 40k registered patients)
and b) a chemist selling mainly beauty/personal grooming products and
sandwiches.

In the middle of town there is a very large Boots which at one time was
like a small department store, and a smaller more typicsl high street
outlet.

Moral: there is no one size fits all. However, amenity=pharmacy is nearly
always a more important piece of information than shop =chemist (most
people around the world map pharmacies as POIs very early on. I think using
pharmacy=yes in this case does not fit with how things have been mapped for
at least 15 years. By all means use both tags or create a separate node for
the pharmacy counter, but dont change things in such a way as to surprise
people.

Most pharmacies in supermarkets or heslth centres should be mapped
separately anyway.

Jerry


On Sun, 12 Apr 2020, 18:09 Peter Neale via Talk-GB, <
talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Hi Robert,
>
> As Boots' stores don't ALL have a pharmacy counter, IMHO they should be
> tagged as "shop=chemist".  Those that DO have a pharmacy (dispensing
> prescriptions) should be additionally tagged, either with "pharmacy=yes",
> or with a separate node for the pharmacy.  I think that would fit with the
> checking that you describe for your tool.
>
> As regards "pharmacy type", does your data identify what I would call
> "wholesale pharmacies", who have no public access, but supply medicines to
> hospitals, care homes and individual customers in their homes?  I know of 2
> in my area.  In one case, I changed the name to "Jardines (on line)" (Node:
> 6409354480) and in the other to "Mediva Private Pharmacy" (Node:
> 6443190532), in an attempt to make it clear that there is no public
> access.
> Could these be excluded in future?
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
> On Sunday, 12 April 2020, 14:41:01 BST, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) <
> robert.whittaker+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> >On Sat, 11 Apr 2020 at 18:39, Dave Love <david.love at oxon.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2020-04-09 at 12:08 +0100, SK53 wrote:
> >> > Robert Whittaker has a Pharmacy QA <https://osm.mathmos.net/pharmacy/
> >> > > site
> >>
> >> That shows a Boots missing which I tagged as the brand from the
> >> correction iD wanted (brand=Boots shop=chemist).  How should Boots be
> >> tagged, and does iD need a fix?  (I assume all Boots have pharmacies,
> >> but maybe not.)
> >
> >As far as my tool at https://osm.mathmos.net/pharmacy/progress/ is
> >concerned, pharmacies are recognised as OSM objects tagged with either
> >amenity=pharmacy or pharmacy=yes*. (The latter can be used on things
> >like supermarkets and doctors surgeries, when things aren't mapped in
> >enough detail to have a separate amenity=pharmacy node.)
> >
> >As for whether all Boots stores have pharmacies, I think most do, but
> >some don't:
> https://www.boots-uk.com/about-boots-uk/about-boots/boots-in-numbers/
> >says there are 2,465 Boots stores, but in the General Pharmaceutical
> >Council register of Pharmacies, there are only 2304 premises
> >registered to 'Boots UK Limited'.
> >
> >Robert
> >
> >PS: I've just noticed that the data I'm using for my tool now contains
> >a "Pharmacy Type" field. This means I can exclude internet only
> >pharmacies, temporary locations (e.g. for events) and internal
> >hospital and prisons pharmacies. This will hopefully make the
> >comparison shown by the tool must more useful.
> >
> >* Because of the change to exclude hospital and prison pharmacies from
> >the GPhC data, OSM objects with pharmacy=yes will only be picked up in
> >my tool if they do not also have amenity=hospital or amenity=prison
> >too.
>
>
> --
> Robert Whittaker
>
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