[Talk-GB] High quality NLS imagery of buildings and HOUSENUMBERS (!) available in London (and Scotland). Create a tasking manger to add this?

Tom Hughes tom at compton.nu
Tue Dec 1 09:41:18 UTC 2020


If we assume that a new copyright is created by the scanning (which is
a complicated question) then there is no way it expires next year.

What exactly do you think the term is for this copyright and when do
you think it starts from?

I don't think it's relevant anyway as I thought NLS had given us
permission to use their scans?

Tom

On 01/12/2020 09:32, Ken Kilfedder wrote:
> SO,
> 
> It turns out - we cannot use these images until the scanner's copyright expires at the end of next year.  Happily, it seems like there will be GB-wide coverage available at that point, not just the London-Southend-Brighton area.
> 
> However, I have been happily using these images for a bit less than a year now, so I'm looking for advice on How to redact. I've tagged all the relevant changesets with the name of the TMS, so it should be possible.
> 
> 1.  Is there an overpass syntax that would let me download (to JOSM) - all ways with addr:housenumber added or changed via a changeset with a certain source tag?  (and not updated by something else later)
> 2. Could I then wipe all such addr:housenumbers and re-upload?
> 3. Could I keep a JOSM session file around to reupload the addr:housenumbers once the scanner's copyright has elapsed?
> 
> 
> 
> This has come to light thanks to IpswitchMapper's tireless efforts to set up a tasking manager for adding housenumber, and thank to Rob-from-OSMF's communications with NLS.
> 
> ---
> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain
> spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk
> 
> On Mon, 16 Nov 2020, at 10:55 AM, Ken Kilfedder wrote:
>> Hi Mark,
>>
>> If there is absolute confidence in that, can it be added to the wiki page here:
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/National_Library_of_Scotland
>>
>> And can it be added to the default set of old maps in JOSM?
>>
>> If it is available for use, not point in keeping it a secret.
>>
>> ---
>> https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrain
>> spiregrain_osm at ksglp.org.uk
>>
>> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, at 6:47 PM, Mark Goodge wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30/10/2020 18:37, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Oct 30, 2020, 16:28 by talk-gb at openstreetmap.org:
>>>>
>>>>      It has come to my attention that the "Town Plan" map from 1944-1967
>>>>      in NLS is available freely.
>>>>
>>>> What are its licensing terms?
>>>>
>>>> "available freely" does not mean "compatible with OSM license"
>>>
>>> It's out of copyright, so there aren't any licensing issues in deriving
>>> data from it.
>>>
>>> I would, though, be a little reluctant to use it as a basis for
>>> wholesale numbering without any supporting local knowledge or survey.
>>> House numbers can, and sometimes do, change, particularly when streets
>>> are renamed or rebuilt. So you can't be 100% certain that a house number
>>> in the 1950s is the same number it is now, even if the building is still
>>> the same.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
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