[Talk-GB] Inland Border Facilities

Brian Prangle bprangle at gmail.com
Sun Dec 6 15:34:18 UTC 2020

Thinking more about this  these new facilities are really  road transport
logistics hubs which are needed for the purposes of checking brexit customs
paperwork and easing bottlenecks at ports so perhaps landuse=commercial
operator=HMRC (and DEFRA where appropriate).It might also be worthwhile to
differentiate between outbound only hubs (like Birmingham Airport) and
inbound/outbound ones and inbound only,

On Sun, 6 Dec 2020 at 14:53, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB <
talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Dec 6, 2020, 15:05 by sk53.osm at gmail.com:
> I was wondering if there were any equivalents elsewhere.
> Closest I can think of is this location
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/208540348#map=15/47.1728/9.7746>
> between Feldkirch & Bludenz, which although described as a goods vehicle
> checkpoint from my personal experience is also operated as in internal
> custom checkpoint (and therefore amenity=police might be wrong too). As a
> group travelling from Zurich to Soelden many of us were stopped for a
> passport/car check. A friend who worked in marketing for BAT was driving a
> company van, and was hugely amused at the idea that smuggling cigarettes
> from Switzerland to Austria might be a way of making money.
> Close to the Poland/Belarus borders there are Border Guard
> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Guard_(Poland)> stations, such as this
> one <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/198471176>. I think these are
> mainly concerned with immigration rather customs. Certainly if travelling
> in a car with non-local numberplates one can be expected to stopped &
> documents checked (first time was stressful as unexpected & about 5:30 in
> the morning).
> Looking at description in Polish it seems to be about handling smuggling
> and illegal migration,
> not about handling customs of legally traveling cargo (AFAIK it would
> happen at border crossing,
> such as https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/52.47616/23.35744 ).
> BTW, it should be probably tagged as police-type force, not as
> military-type force.
> On their website they imply that they enforce ban on presence on part of a
> border
> ("od znaku granicznego nr 303 do znaku granicznego nr 317 wprowadzono zakaz
> przebywania na pasie drogi granicznej").
> Even traditional land borders with heavy duty border controls don't seem
> to be tagged in an obvious way:
> For example see
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700736522#map=16/52.4744/23.3651
> <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/700736522#map=16/52.4744/23.3651&layers=N>
> - just fence mapped and some objects inside, no tag for the entire feature
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