[Talk-GB] Updating the playground area and relations in Hackney Downs park

Dave F davefoxfac63 at btinternet.com
Thu Dec 31 16:59:16 UTC 2020

I presume Dan is asking whether access to the toilets is possible 
without entering the playground. From your photos, it appears so.

This is an example of poor mapping & unnecessary relation use.
Split the playground way. Reattach to the West side of the toilets.
Copy the tags from the relation to the playground's way
Delete the relation.


On 30/12/2020 19:55, Mat Attlee wrote:
> The building does not provide entry to the park, entry is only via the
> gates in the fence. The part of the building with the toilets is very much
> outside the playground, however the side of the building which faces the
> park has a small shelter and a mosaic inside it.
> On Wed, 30 Dec 2020 at 19:46, Dan S<danstowell+osm at gmail.com>  wrote:
>> Hi Mat
>> To get into the building, are the doors within the playground or
>> outside? If inside, then perhaps it makes sense to keep the relation
>> in existence - to express the building being part of the playground
>> site, even if it is at the edge. Otherwise, I guess I'd delete the
>> relation, after copying its tags and pasting them onto the
>> playground's way. (Deleting a relation is easy to do, just delete it -
>> but only if you're sure!)
>> In either case, you also move the building to its rightful place, and
>> probably you'd want to join the building way onto the edge of the
>> playground way, either by merging corresponding nodes together, or
>> using the "join to way" tool in josm.
>> I wonder why someone chose to map it using a relation, though -
>> perhaps that is, after all, a good way to express the toilet block
>> "belonging to" the playground?
>> HTH
>> Dan
>> Op wo 30 dec. 2020 om 19:35 schreef Mat Attlee<mattattlee at gmail.com>:
>>> I am trying to correct the playground area for Hackney Downs park as the
>> toilet building should be outside but connected to the playground as it
>> forms part of the fence around it. The thing that is making this tricky is
>> the area is modelled with relations which I am not familiar with but keen
>> to learn more about.
>>> The node in question ishttps://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5552805
>> and if anyone wants to make the change themselves my survey photos are here
>> and I can take more if neededhttps://photos.app.goo.gl/QjgkwKbUKRq68jpq8
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