[Talk-GB] Map with AI comes to the UK

[SK53]

I was wondering if it was worth creating a wiki page to provide more of
these examples. Clearly the value of the data and types of false positives
vary across the country.

Jerry

On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:12, Russ Garrett <russ at garrett.co.uk> wrote:

> Given the obvious flaws in the data, I'm actually quite surprised how
> good it is at spotting unmapped service roads in London - including
> those which pass beneath buildings. Most of them probably deserve a
> survey though.
>
> Russ
>
> On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 15:04, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks Jerry.
> >
> > I'd also subsequently discovered the data dump but had not yet got
> around to looking at it. What are you using here to view and work with the
> data? Is QGIS and 6GB RAM sufficient?
> >
> > I would be interested in Warwickshire if you can extract that.
> >
> > And yes, we probably are not expecting much for the UK given how well we
> already have most roads mapped. It's a shame it only shows missing roads as
> I suspect it has better geometry of some rural roads in poorly mapped areas
> than us - I still find jagged roads with source=npe.
> >
> > Nevertheless, the AI stuff is an interesting one to keep an eye on. If
> improvements can be made and additional datasets incorporated, it could
> become a significant aid in the future. For example I wonder if it could be
> good at building detections when combined with other data such as LiDAR
> height data. There is also the prospect of using AI to help find solar
> panels.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Sun, 5 Jan 2020 at 14:07, SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Perhaps more useful is that one can download the UK data as a
> geopackage from
> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/wiki/Available-Countries.
> It's 147Mb zipped in a tar which unpacked is around 400Mb.
> >>
> >> I've had a very quick look and notice quite a few concentrations of
> features which are obviously tractor lines in farmland. See this area
> around Colston Bassett
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Colston_basset_fb_rapid.png.
> Apparently such false positives can be marked as such in the editor which
> ought to improve detections next time round. My suspicion is that things
> which are actually roads are mainly driveways to outlying houses & farms or
> farm tracks. Using OS OpenRoads is more likely to help find significant
> missing adopted roads.
> >>
> >> Jerry
> >>
> >> I can potentially provide extracts for individual LAs if people want
> them, send me an email. I personally found it easier to look at the data as
> a whole rather than scanning around in the editor.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Thu, 2 Jan 2020 at 22:09, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi all,
> >>>
> >>> I just spotted that Facebook have pushed an update to their map with
> AI project:
> >>>
> >>> "For our final release of 2019, we have released 84 new countries for
> our AI road data with new coverage in the remainder of Europe, Asia, and
> Oceania! AI roads are now available nearly globally."
> >>> Source:
> https://github.com/facebookmicrosites/Open-Mapping-At-Facebook/blob/master/WHATSNEW.md
> >>>
> >>> For those who don't know what MapWithAI is check out
> https://mapwith.ai
> >>>
> >>> And to try it out in their RapID version of the iD editor:
> https://mapwith.ai/rapid#background=Bing&disable_features=boundaries&map=18.60/53.40625/-2.13801
> >>>
> >>> Just roads at the moment and not that easy to find a suggestion that
> is worth adding (at least near me where roads are well mapped) but this
> does demonstrate what is possible. Let us know if you have a good or bad
> experience with this.
> >>>
> >>> Would be great to see this extended to buildings but we may have to
> wait for Microsoft for that.
> >>>
> >>> P.S. A happy new year to all!
> >>>
> >>> Thank you,
> >>> Rob
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> Russ Garrett
> russ at garrett.co.uk
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