[Talk-GB] Rockall

[nathan case]

I also note that the editor changed Rockall from “island” to “bare rock”, and that Colin has question this: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86624262

For what it’s worth, I suggest the correct tag for Rockall is “islet”: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:place%3Dislet This is supported by Rockall’s wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rockall) “Rockall (/ˈrɒkɔːl/<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English>) is an uninhabitable granite islet<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islet> in the exclusive economic zone<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_economic_zone> (EEZ) of the United Kingdom<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom>,”  and by the (not official!) definition of “an islet has little or no vegetation, and cannot support human habitation” (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islet).



From: Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com>
Sent: 15 June 2020 13:53
To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Rockall

In situations like this I'd invite the new mapper to discuss things more widely (which Colin has already done on https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86624359 ) and then revert the changes pending any discussion here.

The new mapper is already aware of the changeset discussion (they've replied) so hopefully won't then just change it back.

Best Regards,

Andy


On 15/06/2020 11:17, Gareth L wrote:
Probably? I am not familiar with the disputed territories process for Osm.

It’s a weird one as only the U.K. has claimed sovereignty. Others don’t accept the claim, but also haven’t made a sovereignty claim themselves. So at the moment, the U.K. is the administrator - and there is an absence of any others.

I’d say it should remain mapped as U.K. administrative boundary but also flagged as disputed.. if that can be done?

Gareth


On 15 Jun 2020, at 10:24, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl><mailto:colin.smale at xs4all.nl> wrote:


A new mapper has changed the status of Rockall, removing it from the UK admin boundaries. As I understand it Rockall is accepted as UK territory although it can't be used as a baseline to extend the EEZ. I contacted the mapper with a changeset comment and their motivation is based on "fixing the EEZ".

Wikipedia suggests that Rockall is considered (administratively speaking) part of the isle of Harris, in the Western Isles.

As Rockall has from time to time been the subject of a territorial dispute with Ireland, should we use the "disputed territories" process for Rockall?

https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/86624359


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