[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

Philip Barnes phil at trigpoint.me.uk
Sat Mar 14 17:45:38 UTC 2020


On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 12:17 +0100, European Water Project wrote:
> Dear Jez,
> Gus Hoyt who was responsible at Refill UK (before being made
> redundant), for all partnerships was a vocal proponent of
> collaboration and open data.  
> 
> Unfortunately, the Refill board has consistently voted to keep their
> data proprietary to support their revenue model based on paid
> partnerships and margins on Chilly bottles. 
> 
> On one hand, I am very impressed by the achievements Refill UK has
> made and their significant impact in combatting single-use plastic so
> I really hope them success.  On the other hand, I think collaboration
> and open data is a better model for the creation and maintenance of a
> global network of water fountains and commercial establishments where
> anyone can refill their reusable water bottle without creating
> single-use waste. 
> 
> I will send out call notes next week. 
> 
They do seem very secretive about the locations of these outlets, there
appears to be no indication on their website even beyond there may be
one somewhere in this area. 

As it stands it does not appear to be a viable quarterly project. We
have no indication of how common these places are, or their
geographical spread meaning it is not a project all mappers can
participate in.

Also are these bottles just another 'single use' 'bag for life'?  
Like bags for life, their reuse is heavily dependent on them being
remembered next time, and most people forget to take them, or leave
home not realising they will even need them.

Phil (trigpoint)



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