[Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

nathan case nathancase at outlook.com
Wed May 13 09:09:50 UTC 2020


Hi all,

Just to drag this back up - I encountered an unmapped showground (Chipping, Lancashire) whilst adding PROWs and don't know the best way to tag. It appears to hold a several large shows each year (well presumably not this year!) but doesn't appear to be a recreational site.

I found this abandoned proposal for amenity=show_grounds: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/show_grounds It's a shame it never got traction as it might enable us to come to some consensus on these sites. Can an abandoned proposal be re-opened or does it have to be re-proposed?

Cheers.



-----Original Message-----
From: Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> 
Sent: 25 February 2020 00:23
To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging showgrounds

Since I was going through these anyway to see what ought to be rendered at map.atownsend.org.uk, I thought I might as well list them here too. These are things "tagged a bit like showgrounds, excluding bus stops and car parks", sorted by one of the main tags.

I suspect that the ones tagged just "place", "landuse=grass" or "tourism=attraction" only probably need some other tag to say "this is a showground".   "events_venue" might be a misunderstanding of what that tag was for.  "recreation_ground" may be correct in some cases but I suspect isn't in many others. "park" I'd be similarly surprised if it was often correct.  In most or all cases it probably needs a local to make the call, though...

place:


https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2382298440
name     Mannsfield Showground
place     locality
source     OS OpenData StreetView

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3416147963
name     Great Harwood Showground
place     neighbourhood

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/4347790541
addr:postcode     BS37 8QZ
addr:street     Westerleigh Road
name     The Windmill Fisheries Showground place     locality


events_venue only:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5849512782
alt_name     Royal Cornwall Event Centre amenity     events_venue name     Royal Cornwall Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/6938439833
amenity     events_venue
name     Hertfordshire County Showground operator     Hertfordshire Country Council


tourism=attraction only:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/283445694
name     Devon County Showground
tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/91401877
name     Kent Showground
source     Bing
tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/40942963
barrier     fence
name     Norfolk Showground
tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/316706558
name     Great Yorkshire Showground
tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/104155888
barrier     fence
name     Royal Bath and West of England Showground tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/239487854
name     Hennock Showground
tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/178396540
addr:city     Newark
addr:postcode     NG24 2NY
addr:street     Lincoln Road
alt_name     Newark Show Ground
name     Newark Showground
operator     Newark & Nottinghamshire Agricultural Society phone     +44 1636 705796 tourism     attraction website     http://www.newarkshowground.com/ wikidata     Q15262122

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/274093728
name     Lincolnshire Showground
tourism     attraction


recreation_ground only:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/603746353
alt_name     Briscwm Fields
description     Normally farmland,  Used to hold events such as the Cardigan County Agricultural Show.
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Cardigan County Showground
note     Located from information on Coflein.
phone     +44 1545 570501
recreation_ground     showground
website     https://cardigancountyshow.org.uk/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/34993687
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Mirfield Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/89151502
addr:city     Peterborough
addr:housename     Peterborough Arena
addr:postcode     PE2 6XE
addr:street     East of England Showground landuse     recreation_ground name     East of England Showground phone     +44 1733 363500 website     http://www.peterborougharena.com wheelchair     yes

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/415636494
leisure     recreation_ground
name     Christow Playing Fields and Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/4587165
leisure     recreation_ground
name     Essex Showground
source     approximate

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/30813084
leisure     recreation_ground
name     North Somerset Showground
tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/547075306
addr:postcode     LE15 7TW
addr:street     Burley Park Way
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Rutland Showground
note     The new county showground site.
source     EsriWorldImagery
website     https://www.rutlandshowground.com/

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/588128321
leisure     recreation_ground
name     Strithians Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26748908
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Penistone Show Ground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/234890106
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Pateley Bridge Show Ground


landuse=grass:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/487690483
landuse     grass
name     Midsuffolk Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/741042350
landuse     grass
name     Hertfordshire Country Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/103153435
landuse     grass
name     Border Union Showground
note     Showground
old_name     Bridge-end Haugh
operator     Border Union Agricultural Society

and associated with that is:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/137564594
name     Border Union Showground Exhibition Centre tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/100122713
access     restricted
fee     yes
landuse     grass
name     Ingliston Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/530740455
landuse     grass
name     Royal Isle of Wight Agricultural Society County Show Ground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/28182679
landuse     grass
name     Orsett Show Ground
source     Yahoo


landuse=farmyard:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/510512248
landuse     farmyard
name     Edenbridge and Oxted Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/406051035
landuse     farmyard
leisure     sports_centre
name     Felbridge Showground
sport     equestrian


leisure=park:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/161362655
leisure     park
name     Agricultural Showground
note     exhibition ground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/98206321
leisure     park
name     Staffordshire County Showground source     Bing


Other tags:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/65754693
landuse     village_green
leisure     common
name     Cranleigh Showground
source     GPS,knowledge

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/156074625
addr:postcode     CO7 7QL
amenity     show_ground
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Ardleigh Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/231760526
amenity     show_grounds
note     Used for Ashover Show
source     View from N;Bing;local_knowledge

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/558087836
amenity     exhibition_centre
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Grasmere Showground
operator     Grasmere Sports Committee

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/118043186
amenity     show_grounds
landuse     grass
name     Turnpike Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5883047051
ground     showground
landuse     recreation_ground
name     Winterton Showground
wheelchair     limited

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/511751765
leisure     recreation_ground
name     Hickstead Showground
sport     equestrian
surface     grass
(I guess not primarily known as an agricultural showground)

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/169234258
landuse     meadow
name     RJA&HS Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/48473181
amenity     showground
area     yes
landuse     grass
name     West Mids Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/72520259
leisure     sports_centre
name     The Dorset Showground
source     local_knowledge
sport     equestrian

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/26160926
alt_name     South of England Showground amenity     events_centre leisure     showground name     Ardingly Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/626517837
addr:city     Thatcham
addr:postcode     RG18 9QZ
addr:street     Priors Court Road
alt_name     Newbury Showground
leisure     recreation_ground
name     Newbury Show Ground
operator     Newbury & District Agricultural Society recreation_ground     showground tourism     attraction

https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/639908113
amenity     showground
name     Driffield Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/67375462
amenity     showground
landuse     grass
name     Royal Cheshire Show Ground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/93280648
amenity     festival_grounds
name     Royal Welsh Agricultural Society Showground

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/343689161
amenity     show_grounds
name     Manby Showground
note     now closed

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/35432806
amenity     showground
landuse     grass
name     Three Counties Showground
note     car parks across road to south may also belong to showground?
source     local_knowledge

and finally, untagged as a showground:

Bakewell

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=16/53.2114/-1.6674

(there are more of these - look for bus stops tagged "showground" to find them!)


Best Regards,

Andy



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