[Talk-GB] Recycling Points

[Jez Nicholson]

Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use it....my fundamental reason
for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen
as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see
a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a
site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between
the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).

I will try with 'centre' and including '....Recycling Point' in the name.

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S, <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com
> >:
>
>> Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
>> while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
>> container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.
>>
>> Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
>> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
>> accept different items including
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
>> plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
>> clothes bank.
>>
>> The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
>> There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
>> "recycling_type"="point"
>>
>> I can only really see containers or centres in
>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but this
>> place is neither.
>>
>> Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
>> seems like the UK term for it.
>>
>>
> Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used
> as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
> doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".
>
> I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already use
> for some other type of feature.
>
> What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it
> the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it
> the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
> supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?
>
> Best
> Dan
>
>
>
>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris <jgh at wizmail.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>>> > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point in
>>> OSM?
>>> > Have you seen/used anything else?
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cheers,
>>>    Jeremy
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