[Talk-GB] Recycling Points

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I must admit to being surprised that we dont have a distinct value:
recycling points are much commoner throughout Europe than they are in the
UK (probably because more people live in flats). Windsor & Maidenhead
withdrew at least some of their points when recycling bins were introduced.
In Nottingham single containers are relatively common (usually things like
the red BHF ones, rather than council ones), and single containers with
multiple ports exist on the University site, as do combined rubbish bins,
recycling bins.

In Spain and Switzerland something like a recycling point with multiple
containers will be located within a short distance of most properties (e.g.
this one
<https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7896935059#map=19/46.79881/10.30768> I
added which has at least 4 distinct containers). At least in the past in
some Swiss communes, these were also co-located with a communal location
for household rubbish (the one above doesn't appear to have that facility
now). I presume Poland is similar, but Mateusz can confirm.

It does appear that an additional tag value would be appropriate.

Jerry

On Fri, 27 Nov 2020 at 09:42, Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Agreed, "point" sucks as a value, I won't use it....my fundamental reason
> for it not being a 'centre' was size, but a Recycling Point _could_ be seen
> as a mini Recycling Centre that only accepts recyclable waste. You can see
> a perimeter boundary by the concrete area it is set on. I could go with a
> site relation but you can't physically carry out other activities between
> the constituent objects (unlike a wind farm).
>
> I will try with 'centre' and including '....Recycling Point' in the name.
>
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2020, 08:58 Dan S, <danstowell+osm at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Op do 26 nov. 2020 om 19:21 schreef Jez Nicholson <
>> jez.nicholson at gmail.com>:
>>
>>> Okay, bear with. I know that this is detailed mapping, but I enquired a
>>> while ago on the amenity:recycling talk page and a single recycling
>>> container == a single node. A group of containers == a group of nodes.
>>>
>>> Here is an image of the highly attractive Golf Drive Recycling Point
>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Golf_Drive_Recycling_Point.jpg
>>> featuring 6 * "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="container" which
>>> accept different items including
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379145 glass,
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379151 cans, cardboard, paper,
>>> plastic bottles, and https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/8168379142 a
>>> clothes bank.
>>>
>>> The area they are contained in is called "Golf Drive Recycling Point".
>>> There's a sign that says so. I've added a polygon
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/877940580 as "amenity"="recycling" +
>>> "recycling_type"="point"
>>>
>>> I can only really see containers or centres in
>>> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/recycling_type#values but
>>> this place is neither.
>>>
>>> Are you offended by "amenity"="recycling" + "recycling_type"="point"? It
>>> seems like the UK term for it.
>>>
>>>
>> Honestly, "point" seems dangerously prone to misunderstanding, when used
>> as a value here in OSM. I know we tend to say "recycling point", but that
>> doesn't mean that we say "point". "I'll just go to the point".
>>
>> I wish I could suggest a good alternative word, e.g. a word we already
>> use for some other type of feature.
>>
>> What is the fundamental reason this is not a recycling_type=centre? Is it
>> the size? (If so, no problem - use "centre" on a suitable polygon.) Is it
>> the fact that it's unstaffed? (Could use self_service=only or
>> supervised=no.) Is it that there's no perimeter boundary?
>>
>> Best
>> Dan
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 26, 2020 at 4:25 PM Jeremy Harris <jgh at wizmail.org> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 26/11/2020 11:16, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>>>> > Am I missing something, or is there no concept of a Recycling Point
>>>> in OSM?
>>>> > Have you seen/used anything else?
>>>>
>>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:recycling_type>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>    Jeremy
>>>>
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