[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project Suggestion - drink_water:refill

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Hi Jake, CJ and Silent Spike et al.

It's probably a bit early, but could OSM UK  consider drinking water to be
a Q2 21 project theme ; ie adding more public  water fountains and refill
cafés to the database?

If there is a tentative consensus on this idea over next month or so, I
will try to make the same pitch on the French talk channel and possibly
others.

Q2 21 could be good as elementary schools are still in session and the
weather will be getting a bit better.

Best regards,

Stuart

PS: Water-Map is currently in the process of adding 20 cafes to the refill
network in Sri Lanka with the help of a local NGO in Arugam Bay.


On Mon, Mar 16, 2020, 06:13 European Water Project <
europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Silent Spike
>
> I agree that this project should probably not be prioritized for Q220
> given the global coronavirus pandemic.
>
> Maybe we can revisit for Q320 or Q420?
>
> In the meantime, if people can tag a couple of refill establishments here
> and there on an adhoc basis, it would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Stuart
>
>
> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020, 21:20 Silent Spike <silentspike100 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I support and appreciate the initiative and motivation for reducing
>> single use plastic water bottles, but I'm not convinced mapping this data
>> is such a priority for a quarterly project right now.
>>
>> Unsure if it differs across the UK, but I know here in Scotland I could
>> pretty quickly find somewhere willing to refill my water bottle in any
>> populated area (which makes this refill tagging most useful in more remote
>> locations or for analysis/statistical purposes).
>>
>> Surely there's something more relevant we could prioritise with the
>> currently ongoing epidemic in mind.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 15, 2020 at 6:07 PM European Water Project <
>> europeanwaterproject at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Phil,
>>>
>>> 1) I carry a reusable water bottle with me all the time and I do fill up
>>> when I am traveling.
>>>
>>> 2) 1 million water bottles are manufactured every minute in the world
>>> and one third of plastic waste on beaches is water bottles . I added
>>> subtitles to this French Brut video (with their permission). It gives an
>>> overview of the  water bottles plastic issue.
>>> https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Mp6Gpq32xcxQ5OFfbI_gGELRAY4k6uV-
>>>
>>> 3) Your point about supermarket packaging is not so off topic. But, I
>>> think it is important not to create opposition between two important
>>> issues. Plastic packaging needs to be addressed as well.
>>>
>>> Combatting single-use plastic for water bottles has the advantage that
>>> there is an readily available cheaper alternative - high quality TAP WATER
>>> which everyone in Europe has access to (with very few exceptions).  I hope
>>> people who voluntarily adopt reusable water bottles will also become more
>>> ecological conscious citizens and pressure supermarkets directly and
>>> indirectly to reduce plastic packaging.
>>>
>>> 4) Refill UK has over 25,000 establishments and there are quite a few
>>> parallel networks which are very similar.
>>>
>>> I agree 100% about the lack of transparency of Refill data.
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>>
>>> Stuart
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, 15 Mar 2020 at 18:31, Philip Barnes <phil at trigpoint.me.uk>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, 2020-03-14 at 18:59 +0100, European Water Project wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Phil,
>>>>
>>>> I respect your opinion about the fit for the Quarterly Project. I don't
>>>> know enough about the project criteria to have an opinion - even if I am
>>>> passionate on the subject.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I do understand you passion on the subject, although it does seem to me
>>>> to be such a tiny problem in terms of plastic waste.
>>>>
>>>> How often do you take water when you leave home and need to refill it?
>>>>
>>>> I know this is going off-topic but a far bigger problem is the recent
>>>> trend for supermarkets to go back to the 70s and sell fruit and vegetables
>>>> in plastic packaging again, rather than weigh it at the checkout.
>>>>
>>>> This unnecessary food packaging is by far the bulk of the contents of
>>>> my recycling box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> With respect to the locations, there are about 25,000 in the UK and
>>>> Northern Ireland.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think their lack of transparency is a big problem, licensing as
>>>> opendata is one issue however the website doesn't even provide information
>>>> in for personal use.
>>>>
>>>> What information they do provide suggests there are none in either
>>>> Telford or Shrewsbury, or my small North Shropshire town.
>>>>
>>>> However I have since found stickers at three on cafes in my small town,
>>>> there are only five in total, so quite a good uptake.
>>>>
>>>> Phil (trigpoint)
>>>>
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