[Talk-GB] New Unitary Authorities in Northamptonshire

[Colin Smale]

Hi Jerry,

Given the recurring discussion about former railway lines and the principle that OSM maps the here-and-now and not historical things that no longer exist on the ground, I have to admit I am a little surprised by your suggestion. It sounds like you want to make an exception in this case, because other systems haven't caught up with this change? How long should such historical artefacts stay in the database?

Sure, I can revert the deletions, but how would you suggest they be tagged? How about was:boundary=administrative?

Does anybody else have any opinions on this?

Colin

>     On 04/02/2021 9:13 PM SK53 <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>     Hi Colin,
> 
>     Any chance of reverting the deletion of the districts & moving them to one of the life-cycle tags? The districts are useful units for tracking data via overpass for tracking progress with mapping things like solar power. Also some districts are in use by various data comparisons, such as Gregrs' FHRS & Gregory Williams' Solar Mapping. It turns out that the new larger unitary authorities tend to be a bit too big for this kind of thing;
> 
>     I'd also think there may still be other uses of these areas whilst there are significant residual references to them.
> 
>     Jerry
> 
>     On Fri, 2 Apr 2021 at 17:09, Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl mailto:colin.smale at xs4all.nl > wrote:
> 
>         > > I have made the required changes to the relations themselves. The county relation was changed from an administrative county to a Ceremonial County; I have mixed feelings about this, as they are different entities, and it may have been more correct to create a new relation for the ceremonial county. The relations for the six former districts have been deleted and the two "proposed" Unitaries have been activated.
> > 
> >         There is still some minor tidying to be done - many boundary ways need some tags adjusting / deleting, such as left:district and admin_level. Officially these tags are superfluous as the information can be deduced from the relations, but for now (until I have found and fixed them all) they may actually contain incorrect data.
> > 
> >         Regards,
> >         Colin
> > 
> >         > On 04/02/2021 5:11 PM Colin Smale <colin.smale at xs4all.nl mailto:colin.smale at xs4all.nl > wrote:
> >         >
> >         > 
> >         > Hi Vaughn,
> >         >
> >         > Yes, I will pick this up. Thanks for the reminder!
> >         >
> >         > Regards,
> >         > Colin
> >         >
> >         > > On 04/02/2021 4:20 PM Vaughn Meads <vaughn at maytreebarn.org.uk mailto:vaughn at maytreebarn.org.uk > wrote:
> >         > >
> >         > > 
> >         > > On 1 April, two new Unitary Authorities were created, North Northamptonshire and West Northamptonshire.
> >         > >
> >         > > North Northamptonshire combines and replaces the old East Northants district, and Corby, Kettering and Wellingborough boroughs, and West Northamptonshire combines and replaces the old non-metropolitan districts of Daventry, Northampton, and South Northamptonshire. The old county council for Northamptonshire was also abolished, although it still exists as a ceremonial county of course.
> >         > >
> >         > > I can see the two new unitary authority boundaries have already been created as ‘boundary=proposed’, but these need to be made ‘current’ and all of the old ones made ‘disused’ or deleted, but I’m nor confident enough of my own editing skills and admin boundary knowledge to undertake such a major change without fear of messing something up!
> >         > >
> >         > > Is there someone who can bring Northamptonshire up to date in OSM please?
> >         > >
> >         > > Thanks.
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