[Talk-GB] Terraced Houses Mapping - JOSM and iD

Sat Apr 10 18:01:54 UTC 2021

Dear Pierre

Thanks for these questions. This project is not related to Missing Maps or
HOT, and I have no idea whether there are any plans to do further
vulnerability mapping elsewhere. As a voting member of HOT, and a 'member'
of the Missing Maps community, I have contracted for both collectives as a
field worker in the past. In this work, I have taken great pains to make
sure continued training and mentorship are planned and executed within the
various projects, having observed the fall-out (at global and local level)
of this not being done. I have written and campaigned about the importance
of this, referring to it as the 'labour of engagement', and am fully in
agreement with how critical it is.

Equally, validation (particularly of roads) is absolutely crucial to my
agenda, having again experienced 'bad roads data' at field level and in
embarrassing OSM advocacy meetings 'in-country'. I should say that some
field projects I have been involved with feel like they could do with much
continued follow-up, and as a voting member of HOT I am quite vocal about
making sure that, with their 'new-found wealth' they become increasingly
astute with this.

If I go on to initiate this project (with whichever stakeholders want to
support), follow-up with newbies, continued careful training and a high
level of quality control will be written-in to a sustainable plan and
budget.

I am responding to some earlier questions from Brian shortly, and hope that
you see that response, and that it is clear and concise enough.

Best,

Rupert

On Sat, Apr 10, 2021 at 5:34 PM Pierre Béland via Talk-GB <
talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Rupert Allan  wrote on
> <talk-gb%40openstreetmap.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BTalk-GB%5D%20Terraced%20Houses%20Mapping%20-%20JOSM%20and%20iD&In-Reply-To=%3CCAKWZ08DS_GNVXcitySHc2s_9x6gEU5W57Jo6Anoho8eXiJ2cBw%40mail.gmail.com%3E>*Fri
> Apr 9 18:27:48 UTC 2021*
>
> > Thanks so much for all this excellent guidance. I really appreciate the
>
> > feedback (good and bad) about the Tasking Manager tasks, and all the
> > efforts to correct these maverick edits getting made. The roads seemed to
> > have been done outside of Missing Maps/HOT mapathons. These projects are
> > yet to be validated, and have now been made private whilst we continue that
> > work. Hopefully, that should prevent further mishap.
>
> *Rupert Allan  wrote on  <talk-gb%40openstreetmap.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BTalk-GB%5D%20Terraced%20Houses%20Mapping%20-%20JOSM%20and%20iD&In-Reply-To=%3CCAKWZ08DS_GNVXcitySHc2s_9x6gEU5W57Jo6Anoho8eXiJ2cBw%40mail.gmail.com%3E>Fri Apr 9 21:38:35 UTC 2021*
>
> > I am the initiator of the project, as I was the one asked to look at
> > whether the humanitarian community mapping methodology used in Ebola
> > vulnerability mapping, for example, could be applied to assist in the COVID
> > risk/response here in the UK. I am convinced it can. You can read about
> > that in the 'Mapping Crisis' book chapter in the preceding email footer,
> > where I defend OSMapping on ethical and practical grounds.
>
>
> Hi Rupert, Wo is the initiator of such project ? Since you refer to HOT /
> Missing Maps, are they related to this project and do they plan to extend
> such vulnerability projects in other countries ?
>
> You refer to « humanitarian community mapping methodology used in Ebola
> vulnerability mapping ». I have often question quality problem with tasking
> manager projects initiated with no control on participation and follow-up
> of participants. Does this methodology include quality control, follow-up
> of the newbies, training, and assure we avoid problems like we encountered
> for Butembo, North Kivu in 2018 ?
> See
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/hot/2018-December/014662.html
>
>
> Pierre
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