[Talk-GB] Rights of Way tiles

[Paul Berry]

Hi Chris,

Not my view nor my experience though I'm sure it differs by area. A road
that's unadopted does not imply it's not a public right of way. Plenty of
them are private roads, as you'd expect, but a surprising number constitute
rights of way. For "unadopted," especially on a road name sign, read
"unpaved" rather than "private" - people will absolutely sign a private
road as such.

As always, there's sometimes a complicated and obscure dance between
landowner, operator, surface and access. Assume nothing.

Regards,
*Paul*

On Mon, 20 Dec 2021 at 13:23, Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:

> When I lived somewhere with one of these (Filton, Bristol), it was clearly
> unadopted - we were suppose to pay ground rent for the use, but the
> relevant descendant of the last-named landowner didn't show any interest
> and what little  maintenance took placewas done by the adjoining
> homeowners, so they did get overgrown in places. There were a few
> interlinked alleys so cutting through was possible; some have been gated to
> prevent this and the potholes acted as a deterrent to through traffic.
>
> That would seem to imply "private".  Currently the ones round there are
> highway=track, access=yes. When we were selling, the land registry had no
> helpful records available.  So it's a bit of a mess. Even finding out who
> would be responsible for putting up a "private" sign would be hard enough
>
> Chris
>
>
>
> On 20/12/2021 12:23, Adam Snape wrote:
>
>
>
> On Mon, 20 Dec 2021, 12:13 David Woolley, <forums at david-woolley.me.uk>
> wrote:
>
>> One problem I've found on that is people who religiously apply the on
>> the ground rule and won't accept that it is common sense that service
>> roads behind rows of houses are private, and they don't need to be
>> signposted as private to be assumed private.
>>
>
> Oh, that one depends on where you live and the type of access road. In
> Lancashire the vast majority of such roads are back streets behind terraced
> houses (Coronation Street style) and the vast majority of those are adopted
> public highways which the public have a right to use as they do any other
> highway.
>
> In some areas where there has been antisocial behaviour their access has
> subsequently been restricted by Gating Orders but in the absence of
> indication on the ground, my default assumption wouldn't be that
> access=private.
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Adam
>
>>
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