[Talk-GB] Import of Cyclehoop Bike Hangars

[Steven Hirschorn]

Thanks for the feedback, Simon.

I agree and wasn't sure which option to tag them with for "access=" -
"private", or "customers" etc. I'd need to check the wiki. I've tagged
the ones I've done manually consistently enough that I can fix them up
later.

I wasn't specifically mentioning the CyclOSM/OpenCycleMap versions
because I expect this data to be rendered on those maps, but I think
they are a brilliant example of a specific expression/rendering of the
data for a particular use case, and this sort of data *might* be
useful for some purposes. I agree for general rendering on a map,
probably not. OSMAnd lets you enable/disable particular classes of
nodes in the menu, and this would be the sort of place it might be
useful to someone who is not that familiar with OSM. And for someone
who knows how to write an Overpass query they can address use cases
like the one I mentioned previously.

Steven

On Wed, 3 Feb 2021 at 14:48, Simon Still <simon.still at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> When I was looking at the TfL Cycling Infrastructure Database data this came up.
>
> The hangers are a very distinct form of cycle strorage - they’re not available to visitors, even if willing to pay.
>
> The default ‘cycle map’ render does not distinguish between a cycle hoop locker and a shefflield stand hoop. CyclOSM *does*  but it still adds considerable visual clutter to display something is of no use to anyone except local residents who will already know it’s there (and I’ve yet to find a borough where there isn’t a long waiting list for spaces)
>
> While I appreciate the usual answer is "don’t tag for the renderer” this seems another item that makes the map, in its most accessible forms, LESS useful for the average user and only has utility to very limited audience of campaigners.
>
>
> > On 3 Feb 2021, at 12:39, Steven Hirschorn <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > They've asked some questions about what the community benefit is in
> > including them in OSM, and I was wondering if anyone has some standard
> > text they use? In the case of these hangars, I can think of a few
> > benefits, such as the ability to process the data (which I've been
> > doing to lobby my councillors for more hangars - "only 20% of homes in
> > the area live within 100m of a hangar and it is probably at capacity
> > anyway"), the potential of having a map that can show you where your
> > nearest hangar is without having to search multiple websites of
> > different providers to find the nearest one. Plus the fact that OSM
> > supplies the data that is already used by many cycle routing apps like
> > OpenCycleMap, CyclOSM and CycleStreets.
> >
> > Any help appreciated,
> > Steven
> >
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