[Talk-GB] Quarterly Project 2021Q

[nathan case]

On Tue, 9 Feb 2021 at 09:20, Mike Baggaley via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
> I would not want to see access=designated as it implies vehicular access to the land and is not currently a valid combination of tag and value.

Good point!

Looking on the Government's webpages [1,2] it seems it is a little more complicated than just foot=designated. For example, I believe that for village/town greens (they're the same thing legally) any recreational sport is allowed, unless it causes a public nuisance. Therefore bicycle and horse riding would generally be allowed unless restricted by a local bylaw. Common land, however, does not permit this and only allows walking.

But foot=designated is a good start and other access restrictions can be added if known.

> Also I think it would be better to use the terms used in The Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000.
foot=designated
designation=registered_common_land
and
designation=open_access_land

I'm a little confused by this.

"Common" land has a public "right to roam" attached to it [1]. A village/town green does not [1]. "Right to roam" land is  "open access land" [2].

So the two labels seem to be equivalent and both describe common land - not village/town green. How about designation=open_access_land and designaton=village_green?

On Mon, 8 Feb 2021 at 14:23, Robert Whittaker via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>I had a quick look around for any existing tagging that might be suitable for a Registered Common or Village Green. It's maybe not 100% aligned with the tag's original idea, but I wonder if boundary=protected_area might be suitable:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dprotected_area .

Perhaps with protect_class=21. But I know people favour moving away from this sort of tagging. In fact, landuse=village_green is specifically given as a tag to use, rather than the protect_area tagging scheme!

Cheers!

[1] https://www.gov.uk/common-land-village-greens
[2] https://www.gov.uk/right-of-way-open-access-land/use-your-right-to-roam


 

-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Baggaley via Talk-GB <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> 
Sent: Tuesday, February 9, 2021 9:20 AM
To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Project 2021Q

I would not want to see access=designated as it implies vehicular access to the land and is not currently a valid combination of tag and value. Also I think it would be better to use the terms used in The Countryside and Rights of Way Act 2000.

Something like:

foot=designated
designation=registered_common_land
and
designation=open_access_land

Regards,
Mike
>> Therefore we could have:
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>> landuse=grass (or other appropriate tag)
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>> access=designated
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>> designation=common
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>> landuse=grass
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>> access=designated
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>> designation=village_green
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