[Talk-GB] Hanway Street - London - highway=residential or highway=service

[Nick Whitelegg]

Indeed - 'Alley' I think is one of those words with different UK and US usage.

In the UK I take it to mean a narrow concrete path between buildings.

In the US I take it to mean what is under discussion here: a service road that cuts through a block, with houses backing onto it from both sides, and running parallel to streets either side. There are actually a few examples of these in the UK, this springs to mind (between Ludlow Road and Manor Road North), I would use highway=service for this:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/50.90403/-1.36846

Nick


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From: Stephen Colebourne <scolebourne at joda.org>
Sent: 12 February 2021 08:17
To: Talk Gb <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Hanway Street - London - highway=residential or highway=service

None of those four examples look like alleys to me. But this may be a
cultural issue - when I've visited the US I've seen streets called
alleys that are not dissimilar:
https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@42.3498528,-71.0882683,3a,75y,60.23h,70.78t/data=!3m7!1e1!3m5!1sGvRaWcdOwGdQ02UHEt0Yug!2e0!6s%2F%2Fgeo0.ggpht.com%2Fcbk%3Fpanoid%3DGvRaWcdOwGdQ02UHEt0Yug%26output%3Dthumbnail%26cb_client%3Dmaps_sv.tactile.gps%26thumb%3D2%26w%3D203%26h%3D100%26yaw%3D256.35754%26pitch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

Stephen


On Fri, 12 Feb 2021 at 06:14, Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB
<talk-gb at openstreetmap.org> wrote:
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:service%3Dalley has ongoing topic of what
> qualifies as highway=residential and what qualifies as highway=service service=alley
>
> Hanway Street was given as highway=service example, then removed as an example
> - with following photo https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:Hanway_Street_-_London.JPG
>
> To me it looks like a narrow highway=residential but right now it is mapped as
> highway=service, see https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/233334347
> (and was mapped as such for basically all its existence).
>
> Photo looks like something that I would definitely consider as narrow highway=residential,
> and has tagged such roads in my city as highway=residential + lanes=1
>
> What is your opinion? Is it highway=service service=alley or narrow highway=residential?
> Should it be changed in OSM?
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