[Talk-GB] Cycling in Parks

Steven Hirschorn steven.hirschorn at gmail.com
Wed Jan 13 14:19:23 UTC 2021


There's no sign making a clear case either way. Apparently the old
park signs had a "No cycling" provision, but not the new ones.

I found a page on the council website encouraging cycling in their parks:
https://www.ealing.gov.uk/info/201173/transport_and_parking/150/cycling/9

Section 2 of the park bylaws prohibit cycling except in designated places:
https://www.ealing.gov.uk/downloads/download/713/parks_and_open_spaces_by-laws

On Wed, 13 Jan 2021 at 13:47, Jon Pennycook <jon.pennycook at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hello Steven.
>
> Highway=footway with bicycle=yes/permissive appears as a footway in the default OSM view, but will show as a cycleway in OpenCycleMap. Whether you go with cycleway, footway, or path, don't forget to set a value for segregated (and ideally include width, surface, and lit tags as these are useful for routers!)
>
> As to whether it should be tagged with bicycle access, given that bylaws forbid it, I'll leave to other people to decide. Is there a sign explaining the bylaws or forbidding cycling?
>
> Jon
>
> On Wed, 13 Jan 2021, 13:37 Steven Hirschorn, <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have two parks near me that are almost adjoining. I believe they
>> apply the same bylaws, which prohibit cycling. However, I've not heard
>> of the bylaw being enforced and the local council are trying to
>> encourage cycling so I believe it wouldn't be enforced unless combined
>> with anti social behaviour (and I've heard similar from someone who
>> would know).
>>
>> One park previously had all its paths marked as highway=cycleway and
>> the other as highway=footway, bicycle=yes.  highway=cycleway seems to
>> be too strong as they are not designated cycle paths. highway=footway
>> would not permit bikes at all. Combining a footway with bicycle=yes or
>> bicycle=permissive seems the right balance to me of de jure and de
>> facto rules, but I'm not sure of the impact on rendering (I know not
>> to tag for the renderer) or on a cycle routing engine.
>>
>> What would work best to capture this situation?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Steven
>>
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