[Talk-GB] Cycling in Parks

[Simon Still]

I think we have some very over enthusiastic mapping of cycle infrastructure here.  There are some ‘unbuilt’ routes correctly mapped as ‘proposed’ but again I dont’ think this should be on there as it fails on a number of counts 

- it’s not yet officially designated (and thus strictly not legal)
- it’s not *useful* as there is no signage or markings to follow
- it doesn’t exist in any ‘readable’ form on the ground 

https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=rookery%20road#map=18/51.46037/-0.14241&layers=C <https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=rookery%20road#map=18/51.46037/-0.14241&layers=C>

But I an ongoing discussion (that I’m just about to add to) on routes marked only with 1057 symbols as well.

> On 13 Jan 2021, at 15:51, Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
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> Optimistically proposed and prematurely mapped routes can be a real problem - I've had one supposedly going across school playing fields (Bridgnorth) and one with barbed wire and big "keep out" signs near Weston-super-Mare.  The latter has apparently been planned for 10 years but the land owner's "over my dead body" might be almost  literally when it gets built according to locals.
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> They shouldn't make it onto the map until they exist on the ground - and I wonder how they did (your example and my WsM one). In Bridgnorth I made the mistake of believing a sustrans PDF - OSM shows a footpath round the playing field (correct) and a gap in NCR45 (incorrect, it goes along North Gate; I should be able to fix that from my tracklog) https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/115073493#map=15/52.5378/-2.4115&layers=C <https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/115073493#map=15/52.5378/-2.4115&layers=C>
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> I'd apply some caution updating all paths even in a single local authority's parks.  They often encourage it in some parks but not others - a per-park basis might be suitably cautious unless they've published something more general. Even with blanket permission I wonder what they expect when it's physically difficult (kissing gate etc.)
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