[Talk-GB] New 'cycling' layer - CyclOSM

[SK53]

I'm not surprised that orcas might deter people from venturing into cycle
lanes, but suspect that these are not large predatory whales. Enlightenment
please :-)

On Mon, 18 Jan 2021 at 16:32, Jon Pennycook <jon.pennycook at gmail.com> wrote:

> I would like a tag to describe how a mandatory cycle lane is separated
> from motor vehicles (or how a "cycle path" separates pedestrians from
> cyclists) - paint, wands, orcas, or kerbs/blocks/planters. Maybe something
> like cycleway:segregation=no/paint/wand/orca/kerb/block). Cycle lanes and
> cycle paths in West Berkshire have a mixture of segregations. Basingstoke
> has no mandatory cycle lanes and probably never will, but has a couple of
> kerb-separated cycle tracks. Wokingham Borough has mandatory cycle lanes
> using the protective powers of paint. Once there's a tag, routers could
> then make a distinction between the levels of protection.
>
> I feel slightly safer on mandatory cycle lanes with only paint compared
> with advisory ones, because mandatory cycle lanes tend to be at least 1.5m
> wide (advisory ones in Hampshire are often <1m wide, and drivers get angry
> if you keep a safe distance from the kerb), and the solid white line is
> more likely to be seen by drivers on side roads.
>
> Jon
>
> On Mon, 18 Jan 2021, 16:13 Chris Hodges, <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> TBH I can't see any point indicating the difference between mandatory
>> and advisory cycle lanes on a cycling map.  The difference applies to
>> drivers, and with the issues over whether mandatory lanes are in fact
>> mandatory in all cases, combined with them being widely ignored, it's
>> just clutter on the display.  At least it's unlikely to be read going
>> along.
>>
>> (Personally I can think of quite a few lanes of both types that should
>> be removed to benefit cyclists)
>>
>> On 18/01/2021 13:59, David Woolley wrote:
>> > ...
>> > It also seems to assume that cycle lanes with no explicit type are
>> > mandatory ones.  (Unfortunately, cycle lanes have been changing a lot
>> > recently, and, whilst I don't think my example is mandatory, and there
>> > are reasons to think it wouldn't have changed, the cycle lane
>> > landscape is changing rather rapidly.)
>> >
>> >
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