[Talk-GB] New 'cycling' layer - CyclOSM

[Simon Still]

Is that correct?  If it’s a bike lane shared with all other traffic then that tag seems superfluous 

1057’s have a number of legitimate uses of varying utility - 

- marking advised position for cycling. Encouraging cyclists to take a central lane position ahead of a junction or obstruction.  (Eg continuing a cycle lane around a bus stop).  Often done very badly - frequently see them painted very close to parked cars so that would be at risk from dooring

- as part  of the marking along a signed cycle route.  They can, usefully, give some comfort that you are still on a route between junctions and wayfinding signposts or road markings or give additional making at a junction (in addition to a signpost)  By themselves they do not constitute a ‘route’ marking in my view. 

- alerting drivers to the potential presence of cyclists.  You often seem them painted across a junction,. This is just ’something must be done’ engineering and pretty much pointless - as the OP says, drivers should expect people on bikes everywhere not just where these are painted. 





> On 19 Jan 2021, at 07:25, Jon Pennycook <jpennycook at bcs.org.uk> wrote:
> 
> Hello Steven.
> 
> That (on-road diagram 1057) is tagged as cycleway=shared_lane. It doesn't serve any practical purpose except in the minds of councils. The router I use ignores them. 
> 
> Jon
> 
> On Tue, 19 Jan 2021, 01:29 Steven Hirschorn, <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com <mailto:steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>> wrote:
> I was wondering what this "cycling infrastructure" would be tagged as?
> That's a bike symbol placed in the main northbound lane, no advisory
> or mandatory segregation? I was also wondering why the council
> bothered at all, what use is painting a bike symbol in a main traffic
> lane? Is it a legal requirement if a nominal bike route goes that way,
> or is there any evidence that road users are more aware of cyclists if
> they see a symbol painted in the road occasionally?
> 
> https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/tJ39xtdT9yB4qDUKxtfIdx <https://www.mapillary.com/map/im/tJ39xtdT9yB4qDUKxtfIdx>
> 

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