[Talk-GB] Household Waste Recycling

[Jez Nicholson]

The Wikidata records were brand new this weekend. They use government
lat-lons which means they'll most definitely be suspect...which is why we
need to link to OSM which will most definitely by right.

You can manually update the Wikidata record, or we will programmatically
adjust the lot when they've all been tagged in OSM

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, 16:23 Peter Neale, <nealepb at yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> So, I looked at Paul's HWRC to see a perfect example of how to tag.
> ...and I found that the Wikidata entry to which it is linked has the
> location some 300m (as the cow flies) away from the location that Paul has
> mapped (and Paul's mapping is confirmed by G**gle E**th and Str**tview)
>
> Then I looked up one of the 3 HWRC's in my area (yes, 3! - luxury!) and
> found that it is shown on the OSM map in Wikidata just over 1,000m away
> from the true position.
>
> Dumb question:  Would it be really good / quite a good idea / a waste of
> time for us / me to correct the Wikidata, as we / I update the mapping in
> OSM and link to Wikidata?
>
> Regards,
> Peter
>
>
> On Monday, 22 March 2021, 15:03:27 GMT, Jez Nicholson <
> jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> Took me a few minutes to work out that Paul's HWRC is down as 'Springvale'
> although clearly, from the sign, it is called 'Penistone'. The pains of
> data eh! I've put the wikidata id on it from
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Household_waste_in_the_United_Kingdom#List_of_HWRCs
>
> We've got a proof-of-concept web app at https://dev.jackgilmore.me/ which
> is going to be elevated to "OpenWasteMap.org" soon. Uses Overpass Turbo to
> pull data combined with Wikidata.
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:37 PM Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
>
> My Apr-Sep was a guess, but apparently a good one.  Mine (
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636303826 ) clearly needs a bit of
> surveying.  Maybe I'll have enough stuff to be worth going soon; if so I'll
> try to rig a couple of cameras in the van.
> On 22/03/2021 14:10, Paul Berry wrote:
>
> My local recycling centre helpfully signs the summer/winter opening times,
> permit system, and prohibited pedestrian access. You can see how I tagged
> it, with a link through to the source photo, here:
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27445657
>
> Regards,
> *Paul*
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 13:56, Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
>
> (How) do they define "summer" and "winter"?  I've seen definitions that
> pick up off the clock change days, which I doubt would be possible with the
> current syntax.  If they call summer April-September that shouldn't be a
> problem
> On 22/03/2021 13:28, Tony Shield wrote:
>
> My local Chorley Recycling Centre
>
>
> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.63462870271903&lng=-2.64895511208465&z=19.259070961605016&pKey=po3NgIdhU2YI7-tzgFtQ2Q&focus=photo&x=0.5055185484717322&y=0.4879444087446956&zoom=1.6289592760180995
>
> Allowed - Cars, single axle trailers
>
> Allowed with PERMIT - Vans, Twin Axle Trailers, Pick ups and Flat backs,
> Pedestrians
>
> Not Allowed - Vehicles with more than 4 wheels, Tipper vehicles, Trailers
> longer than 3 metres, Trade Waste.
>
> Operated by Suez under contract from Lancashire County Council
>
> *Opening Hours are seasonal -  Winter - 0900-1700, Summer 0700-1900 - how
> can that be tagged?*
>
> *And is the Household Waste list of sites updated automatically? Cos
> Farington is in the list but has not an OSM reference?*
> TonyS999
>
> On 22/03/2021 12:50, Ken Kilfedder wrote:
>
> Would foot=no with motor_vehicle=yes (or motor_vehicle=only) on the gate or access road do the trick?
>
> ---https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrainspiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk
>
> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, at 12:09 PM, ael via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:15:20AM +0000, Paul Berry wrote:
>
> Seconded: access is a crucial detail (along with opening hours and types of
> waste accepted).
>
> They are one of those features that are not only impossible to armchair map
> in any detail but actually require a resident to drive through the facility.
>
> Hmm. I have used (and mapped) these in both Oxfordshire and Cornwall.
> Both appeared to cater only for vehicles, but I don't think they
> actually displayed any notices to that effect. I don't know what would
> happen if a pedestrian turned up with a wheelbarrow of waste or a
> rucksac of rubbish even if they could walk along the long access roads.
>
> How would you tag that for access? Similarly I have never been asked to
> prove residence.
>
> ael
>
>
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