[Talk-GB] Household Waste Recycling

[Paul Berry]

Hi Jez,

To be fair, it was known as "Springvale" for some years and only recently
(~2 years) changed to "Penistone" when the operator changed hands. It does
show that a feature thought to be fairly static can actually change over
time.

Anyway, thanks for publicising the HWRC list that lives on the Wiki. I'll
cross reference as many as I know in my area.

Regards,
*Paul*

On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 15:00, Jez Nicholson <jez.nicholson at gmail.com> wrote:

> Took me a few minutes to work out that Paul's HWRC is down as 'Springvale'
> although clearly, from the sign, it is called 'Penistone'. The pains of
> data eh! I've put the wikidata id on it from
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Household_waste_in_the_United_Kingdom#List_of_HWRCs
>
> We've got a proof-of-concept web app at https://dev.jackgilmore.me/ which
> is going to be elevated to "OpenWasteMap.org" soon. Uses Overpass Turbo to
> pull data combined with Wikidata.
>
> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 2:37 PM Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> My Apr-Sep was a guess, but apparently a good one.  Mine (
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/636303826 ) clearly needs a bit of
>> surveying.  Maybe I'll have enough stuff to be worth going soon; if so I'll
>> try to rig a couple of cameras in the van.
>> On 22/03/2021 14:10, Paul Berry wrote:
>>
>> My local recycling centre helpfully signs the summer/winter opening
>> times, permit system, and prohibited pedestrian access. You can see how I
>> tagged it, with a link through to the source photo, here:
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/27445657
>>
>> Regards,
>> *Paul*
>>
>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021 at 13:56, Chris Hodges <chris at c-hodges.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>> (How) do they define "summer" and "winter"?  I've seen definitions that
>>> pick up off the clock change days, which I doubt would be possible with the
>>> current syntax.  If they call summer April-September that shouldn't be a
>>> problem
>>> On 22/03/2021 13:28, Tony Shield wrote:
>>>
>>> My local Chorley Recycling Centre
>>>
>>>
>>> https://www.mapillary.com/app/?lat=53.63462870271903&lng=-2.64895511208465&z=19.259070961605016&pKey=po3NgIdhU2YI7-tzgFtQ2Q&focus=photo&x=0.5055185484717322&y=0.4879444087446956&zoom=1.6289592760180995
>>>
>>> Allowed - Cars, single axle trailers
>>>
>>> Allowed with PERMIT - Vans, Twin Axle Trailers, Pick ups and Flat backs,
>>> Pedestrians
>>>
>>> Not Allowed - Vehicles with more than 4 wheels, Tipper vehicles,
>>> Trailers longer than 3 metres, Trade Waste.
>>>
>>> Operated by Suez under contract from Lancashire County Council
>>>
>>> *Opening Hours are seasonal -  Winter - 0900-1700, Summer 0700-1900 -
>>> how can that be tagged?*
>>>
>>> *And is the Household Waste list of sites updated automatically? Cos
>>> Farington is in the list but has not an OSM reference?*
>>> TonyS999
>>>
>>> On 22/03/2021 12:50, Ken Kilfedder wrote:
>>>
>>> Would foot=no with motor_vehicle=yes (or motor_vehicle=only) on the gate or access road do the trick?
>>>
>>> ---https://hdyc.neis-one.org/?spiregrainspiregrain_osm@ksglp.org.uk
>>>
>>> On Mon, 22 Mar 2021, at 12:09 PM, ael via Talk-GB wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 22, 2021 at 10:15:20AM +0000, Paul Berry wrote:
>>>
>>> Seconded: access is a crucial detail (along with opening hours and types of
>>> waste accepted).
>>>
>>> They are one of those features that are not only impossible to armchair map
>>> in any detail but actually require a resident to drive through the facility.
>>>
>>> Hmm. I have used (and mapped) these in both Oxfordshire and Cornwall.
>>> Both appeared to cater only for vehicles, but I don't think they
>>> actually displayed any notices to that effect. I don't know what would
>>> happen if a pedestrian turned up with a wheelbarrow of waste or a
>>> rucksac of rubbish even if they could walk along the long access roads.
>>>
>>> How would you tag that for access? Similarly I have never been asked to
>>> prove residence.
>>>
>>> ael
>>>
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