[Talk-GB] Seeking permission for automated edit to site=stop_area.

[Jay Turner]

Speaking of bus-train connections, should the train station (platforms,
station node, stop positions, etc) and the bus stops outside share one
stop_area or two?

Jay Turner

On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 13:51 SK53, <sk53.osm at gmail.com> wrote:

> I'm not sure that the stop areas as defined at the time are even worth
> keeping in OSM: there were some very odd ones, including ones extending a
> couple of kilometres
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/258654#map=15/52.9667/-1.1716&layers=ON.
> In these cases updating them may make them look more useful than they are.
> Note that OPNV Karte does consume this data as is.
>
> It's quite likely that these have improved quite a bit in the past 10
> years. At a minimum they need reviewing. Most should be straightforward
> pairs of stops on opposite sides of a road. These could probably be
> excluded from individual review.
>
> In principal suitable stop areas can be calculated directly from OSM data,
> with the advantage that they can then reflect features more personal to the
> individual (e.g.,wheelchair accessiblity, walking speed, steps etc).
>
> The types of location I personally might find stop areas useful are modal
> interconnections (train-bus mainly), large bus stations (where some stops
> are not in the bus station proper) and places such as hospitals with lots
> of similarly named bus stops.
>
> Jerry
>
> On Wed, 31 Mar 2021, 11:10 Jay Turner, <jaynicholasturner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> It looks like type=site + site=stop_area has been used a lot in the UK
>> with naptan relations. I'm assuming from imports.
>>
>> It seems this is meant to be type=public_transport +
>> public_transport=stop_area
>>
>> I believe PT Stop Area wasn't established in early 2010, so I understand
>> why this happened, but as there's no software support for site=stop_area,
>> I'd like to seek permission do apply the following changes to affected
>> relations in the UK
>>
>> - type=site
>> - site=stop_area
>> + type=public_transport
>> + public_transport=stop_area
>>
>> Related links:
>> * https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/site=stop_area
>> * https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/public_transport=stop_area
>> * https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag%3Apublic_transport%3Dstop_area
>>
>> Jay Turner
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