[Talk-GB] London Overground / TfL Rail as part of National Rail

tonyosm9 at gmail.com tonyosm9 at gmail.com
Sat Nov 20 17:39:02 UTC 2021


Reading the https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator it seems clear that Arriva is the operator and London Overground is the brand, but that only applies to the relation describing the service.
TonyS999

On 20/11/2021 16:44, Michael Tsang <miklcct at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Saturday, 20 November 2021 16:03:13 GMT David Woolley wrote:
> > On 20/11/2021 14:21, Russ Garrett via Talk-GB wrote:
> >> On the ground, it's abundantly clear that London Overground is operated
> >> by TfL.
> >
> > We are talking about the lines, and if you apply on the ground logic to
> > most lines you are likely to end up with a result of undecidable, as
> > they are used by more than one train operating company and also by
> > tourist and goods services.
> 
> The whole topic of this thread is just about the train services, but someone
> have brought Network Rail into confusion here. Network Rail is totally
> irrelevant here except that some major stations have operator="Network Rail".
> 
> On the ground, London Overground is operated by TfL so should we tag
> operator="Transport for London" into the Overground lines, where the
> contracted operator should not be relevant? For all intents and purposes from
> the passenger, London Overground is operated by TfL and Arriva is just a
> subcontractor.
> 
> Michael
> 
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