[Talk-GB] Golfing tags seem to conflict with walking tags

Chris Hodges chris at c-hodges.co.uk
Fri Nov 26 13:51:48 UTC 2021

I see where you're coming from with that, but if that's the settled view 
it suggests that the examples in the wiki page for tag:designated 
<https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:access%3Ddesignated>need to be 
updated (the "UK" example on that page also conflict with theProW 
section of Access provisions in the United Kingdom 
on this point).  I'm still logged in and do tend to use designation= 
when mapping.  It's also a shame that my  example is in Gwent, which 
isn't on RoWmaps.  I'd like to try to trace the official route through 
the entrance.

On 26/11/2021 13:31, Andy Townsend wrote:

> On 26/11/2021 13:00, Chris Hodges wrote:
>> But your comment prompted me to check a local example I'd mapped a 
>> few years ago - and got wrong, using "yes" for the public footpath 
>> instead of "designated".
> I'd argue (in line with what Jerry said earlier) that neither "yes" 
> nor "designated" are wrong here; in England and Wales at least, the 
> use of "designated" is so confused that it only really means "yes", 
> together with either "this might also be a public footpath/bridleway", 
> or someone's used the original meaning of "designation" which was 
> "this mode of traffic (in this case 'foot') should use perfectly legal 
> way (a) as opposed to perfectly legal way (b), for reasons unrelated 
> to legal access (such as crossing a road via a bridge to avoid getting 
> run over)".
> If something's in England and Wales is a public footpath please tag 
> with "*designation=public_footpath*" (or as appropriate 
> *designation=public_bridleway*, *byway_open_to_all_traffic*, 
> *restricted_byway*, *unclassified_highway* *) so that there's no doubt 
> about the PRoW status.  "*designation=core_path*" is widely used in 
> Scotland for Scottish Core Paths**.  Not that it's relevant to GB, but 
> for UK completeness the NI situation seems to be 
> https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/public-rights-way , and there's 
> relatively little use of designation for this purpose there: 
> https://taginfo.geofabrik.de/europe/ireland-and-northern-ireland/keys/designation#values 
> .
> Best Regards,
> Andy
> * there are occasional exceptions, such as ways where the exact legal 
> status is unclear but there is definitely a public right of way; 
> "designation=public_right_of_way" can be used for those.
> ** 
> https://www.outdooraccess-scotland.scot/act-and-access-code/core-paths-plans
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