[Talk-GB] Mapping of Kielder Forest(s)

[Andy Townsend]

On 01/09/2021 20:34, Tom Crocker wrote:
>
> Andy, thanks for the suggestion of landuse=forestry for the bigger 
> area. I'm convinced but I imagine until carto, osmand, etc can at 
> least render the name Russ isn't going to want to use this, and using 
> landuse=forest will blot out all of the gaps and cause confusion I guess.

I did add support for landuse=forestry to the map style that I look 
after, so "Cringle Moor Plantation" at

https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=15&lat=54.41744&lon=-1.17522

appears in a lighter green to the areas with actual trees within it.  
landuse=forest is treated the same way, and names on either of those (or 
natural=wood) are rendered.  OSM Carto won't ever support it, but I 
won't worry about that - looking at 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/57730175#map=15/54.4210/-1.1763 
there's an awful lot of other information it doesn't show either. You 
can point OsmAnd at any tiles you want, so at least when online that's 
not an issue.


> Perhaps a halfway house would be landuse=forest and introduce cutlines 
> between the gaps... Render the name and the cutlines and be ready to 
> switch to landuse=forestry if/when the time comes, but it's more work 
> and objects.

While mapping cutlines where they exist is a perfectly good idea, lots 
of stands of trees (at least in Yorkshire) are separated by more than a 
simple cutline.  Mapping "where there are currently trees" and "where 
there is a managed forest" separately makes sense to me (and to my eyes 
is much less like "micromapping" than mapping detail like house numbers 
etc.!).

Much of what is currently scrub at 
https://map.atownsend.org.uk/maps/map/map.html#zoom=15&lat=54.42803&lon=-1.13788 
is actually part of the forest area, and will shortly no doubt be 
replanted with trees.  The tricky bit is that usually a visit is needed 
if only to see how OSM's available imagery matches the current situation 
(trees being felled and replanted etc.).  The areas of individual stands 
of trees tend not to change but the status of the trees in each does.

Best Regards,

Andy