[Talk-GB] non-attributed map

[Michael Collinson]

I may not share Simon's slightly acid tongue :-) but I do agree with him 
to use/promote the OSMF guidelines as much as possible. So I stand 
slightly admonished for not noticing myself.

In copyright cases, the expressed published views of the publisher carry 
weight - and corporate lawyers know that. In our our case, the OSMF is 
the formal publisher: So please do reference OSMF site versions of 
guidelines where possible. We were very careful when setting them up to 
go through a formal process, including community consultation and board 
level approval, so that they carry as much weight as possible.

Mike

https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline


On 2021-09-05 11:59, Kai Michael Poppe - OSM wrote:
>
> Simon,
>
> no. That box is not written in invisble ink. I wonder, though, how 
> linking to the Wiki within the community (this mailinglist) wasn't the 
> right way to answer Graham's question.
>
> Kai
>
> On 05.09.2021 11:17, Simon Poole wrote:
>> Just a note on the side: 
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline 
>> has a big notice at the top that in my experience seems to be written 
>> in invisible ink. you should always be referring to the definite 
>> documents published by the OSMF and not, in the best case historical, 
>> documents on the wiki, in this case 
>> https://wiki.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Licence/Community_Guidelines/Substantial_-_Guideline
>>
>> Simon
>>
>>
>> Am 05.09.2021 um 06:44 schrieb Kai Michael Poppe:
>>> Hi Graham,
>>>
>>> the Wiki [1] it says:
>>> "So, we have focused on what "insubstantial" rather than 
>>> "substantial" means. We've set the boundary we are happy with at 
>>> basically: village map OK, town map not OK."
>>> (with that sentence describing where not attributing OSM would be 
>>> ok-ish)
>>>
>>> As the map you linked is essentially a world-map that just happens 
>>> to only have POIs on the Island of Great Britain I would always 
>>> argue that that is substantial use.
>>>
>>> I trust that you've seen the Wiki page [2] for pages lacking proper 
>>> attribution, there you'll also find an example email if you need 
>>> help telling them your concern. If you add the site to the table on 
>>> the site that would also be great for tracking progress.
>>>
>>> Kai
>>>
>>> [1] 
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Data_License/Substantial_-_Guideline
>>> [2] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Lacking_proper_attribution
>>>
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