[Talk-GB] UK addressing project

Tue Sep 7 11:25:22 UTC 2021

 Hi All,

This is great! We hope to start the South Wales community mapping project
up again properly this coming month, (after a period of
preparation/lockdown etc.), and would love to use it as a key methodology

Would it fit better as a school, youth group, or university mapping
project, do you think, Rob (with careful management/containment, of course)?

Any thoughts?

Best,

Rupert

On Tue, Sep 7, 2021 at 11:59 AM Chris Andrew <cjhandrew at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> This sounds like a great initiative. I can see that MapComplete is going
> to be used, but I'm wondering whether some of the queries could be
> submitted for inclusion in StreetComplete? Just thinking we could make the
> most of the existing user base that Tobias has grown.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Chris
> chris_debian
>
>
>
> On Tue, 7 Sep 2021, 10:10 Steven Hirschorn, <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Just a quick note to say I'm really excited by the idea! The address base
>> shouldn't be locked up as a proprietary dataset and if it takes
>> crowdsourcing it to open it up, this looks like the best available approach.
>> I tried using multiple colocated UPRNs as a way to identify flat
>> conversions in my local area, but other than tagging the building as being
>> flat conversions, the effort of actually identifying whether flats were
>> addressed as "Ground Floor/First Floor" or "32A/32B" etc proved quite
>> convoluted. I don't suppose you have a way of getting the list of addresses
>> that need to be applied in any area from an open/license compatible dataset?
>>
>> Steven
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, 6 Sept 2021 at 23:04, Rob Nickerson <rob.j.nickerson at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I've mentioned this on and off over the last few months, but with all
>>> the pieces now in place, I am pleased to say that OSM UK is kicking off a
>>> UK addressing project. Ed beat me to this email so rather than me retyping
>>> it all here, head over to
>>> https://blog.opencagedata.com/post/supporting-the-osmuk-addressing-project
>>> to find out more.
>>>
>>> In short, we are working with Russ Garrett <https://russ.garrett.co.uk/>
>>> and Pieter Vander Vennet
>>> <https://openstreetmap.be/en/motm/2018/01/12/pieter-vdv.html> (both
>>> long standing OSMers) to develop a new way to crowdsource address data
>>> within a specialist, simple editor. We are planning to use OGL data as a
>>> starting point to get lat/lon coordinates of suspected addressable
>>> locations and ask the crowdsource community to check and add all the tags.
>>>
>>> Below are the topic areas that we are aware that we will need to address
>>> (pun not intended!):
>>>
>>>    1. How to get the best quality set of suspected addressable
>>>    locations (Land Registry and Generalised buildings vs UPRN data)
>>>    2. How to manage integration with existing OSM data (filtering).
>>>    3. How to make the user interface as simple / intuitive as possible.
>>>    (It will be based on MapComplete)
>>>    4. What data we actually want to collect (e.g. easy, observable data)
>>>    5. How to promote the crowdsource project to as wide an audience as
>>>    possible...
>>>    6. ... whilst maintaining good quality contributions that are
>>>    compliant with OSM (e.g. not copying from protected databases)
>>>
>>> Firstly, have we missed anything? And secondly feel free to start
>>> chipping in with answers / comments on these. It could get too much for
>>> this mailing list so feel free to get something up and running in a
>>> collaborative doc or on OSM UK's loomio site. (If nobody beats me to that,
>>> I'll get that done in the coming days).
>>>
>>> I hope our approach is welcomed and does not fall into some of the traps
>>> that cause worry. For example, we are crowdsourcing not importing, and by
>>> keeping it simple we should minimise / avoid bad edits by newbies, etc. All
>>> comments, questions, and so on are welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> *Rob*
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