[Talk-GB] Electric kick scooters- Was: External data on bike rental locations

[David Groom]

------ Original Message ------
From: "Steven Hirschorn" <steven.hirschorn at gmail.com>
To: "David Groom" <reviews at pacific-rim.net>
Cc: "talk-gb at openstreetmap.org" <talk-gb at openstreetmap.org>
Sent: 13/09/2021 13:39:20
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Electric kick scooters- Was: External data on 
bike rental locations

>I've been using amenity=escooter_rental in the absence of an agreed tag 
>- internally consistent so that they can be replaced with an agreed 
>alternative when/if one is agreed upon. taginfo didn't show any clear 
>front-runners when I last looked.
Noted

>
>
>The escooters, unlike the dockless bikes and ebikes, are expected to be 
>returned to designated locations, so I think it would be really useful 
>to see a map of those locations in one place to plan journeys (no point 
>riding them towards a destination with no approved return locations). 
>I'm aware though that unapproved tags won't be rendered yet.
>
>
>
>On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 13:14, David Groom <reviews at pacific-rim.net> 
>wrote:
>>Just wondering how people are adding locations for electric kick 
>>scooter rental.  There are a number of pages on the wiki, some in 
>>"proposal stage", and others which just seem to have been added ( see 
>>https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/ElectricScooters#Ambiguous_current_situation_with_.27Scooters.27 
>>  for some examples) with no final consensus.
>>
>>I'm aware of the 607 nodes added by CJ Malone for the Beryl bike 
>>scheme ( Isle of Wight area added in 
>>https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/103830110  but the nodes have 
>>no tag to show that these are electric kick scooters.
>>
>>It would seem beneficial to add some information to these nodes to 
>>show they were for hire of electric kick scooters, and it would seem 
>>sensible to have a consensus of how these should be mapped in the UK.  
>>If at a later stage the worldwide OSM community does standardise on 
>>how they should be tagged then anything we do now should at least 
>>enable us to quickly identify which nodes in the UK would need 
>>amending to bring into line with intentional mapping practice.
>>
>>David
>>
>>------ Original Message ------
>>From: "Cj Malone" <me-osm-talk-gb at keepawayfromfire.co.uk>
>>To: talk-gb at openstreetmap.org
>>Sent: 21/04/2021 14:22:00
>>Subject: [Talk-GB] External data on bike rental locations
>>
>>>Hello everyone,
>>>
>>>I have just been given some data from beryl.cc for including in OSM.
>>>They operate a bike rental scheme in a few locations around the
>>>county. (BCP, Hereford, Isle of Wight, Norwich and Watford)
>>>
>>>The data provided includes "Beryl Bays" that are places that you
>>>collect a bike, or leave it. And "Service Areas" which are the areas
>>>you can travel on the bikes.
>>>
>>>How would everyone feel about me adding them?
>>>
>>>I feel the rental locations clearly belong in OSM.
>>>The service areas may be more questionable, but I think it's valuable
>>>data. Looking at the wiki they are quite close to
>>>public_transport=pay_scale_area, although it doesn't have much usage.
>>>
>>>What are everyones opinions?
>>>
>>>Cj
>>>OSM UK
>>>
>>>
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