[Talk-GB] Electric kick scooters- Was: External data on bike rental locations
Steven Hirschorn
steven.hirschorn at gmail.com
Tue Sep 14 08:31:06 UTC 2021
On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 14:54, Andy Townsend <ajt1047 at gmail.com> wrote:
> There's actually pretty low usage of "scooter" worldwide (actually low
> enough for me to wonder if another tag is being used altogether?). From
> looking at https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=scooter#values and
> https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/search?q=scooter#values :
>
> 91 motorcycle:type=scooter (none in UK; seems to be mostly actual shops)
> 67 amenity=scooter_rental (27 in UK)
> 58 amenity=scooter_parking (2 in UK)
> 9 parking=e-scooter (9 in UK)
> 5 motorcycle:type=standard;scooter
> 4 shop=e-scooter
> 4 description=Scooter
> 3 motorcycle=scooter
> 3 motorcycle:type=scooter;electric (1 in UK)
> 3 amenity=e_scooter_parking
>
I wonder if e_scooter_parking ever means "parking for private escooters"?
If not, it feels like that is probably the same entity we're trying to map,
rental escooter designated locations.
"motorcycle:type=scooter" clearly means the motorbike type.
"amenity=scooter_rental" - are there shops where you can rent
kick/escooters? Or does this probably mean the motorbike type?
The thing that I think is worth distinguishing these new rental locations
from others is the convenience, which is essential for people developing
habits that reduce car dependency. Any scooter rental that requires form
filling and ID on every rental is a different class of service. I'd be
happier in the long run if the rental escooters didn't have designated
drop-off locations, and we could just rely on people to park them
responsibly. But then there'd also be nothing to map.
I'd be happy to add support to map.atownsend.org.uk - a pull request (to
> https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/SomeoneElse-style/blob/master/style.lua
> to coalesce the values, to
>
> https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/openstreetmap-carto-AJT/blob/master/amenity-points.mss
> to display the symbol and the name and to
>
> https://github.com/SomeoneElseOSM/openstreetmap-carto-AJT/tree/master/symbols
> to add the new .png for the symbol) would get it there quicker,
> otherwise it'll wait for me to get a "round tuit".
>
I don't understand the implications of this - is it to help with mapping,
or does it speed up the process of getting the locations into the default
openstreetmap.org rendering?
Thanks!
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