[Talk-GB] Right of Way Rendering (from Scottish paths map)

Brian bwhitehead at hythe.org
Tue Sep 14 08:35:33 UTC 2021


The rendering of https://wightpaths.co.uk/ suggested by the contributor in the "Scottish paths map" thread are a great improvement.

Can any expert tell me if it is possible to implement that in OsmAnd for example (or other apps), either in general or on my own personal version?

Brian

14 Sept 2021, 08:29 by talk-gb at openstreetmap.org:

>
> >    On 13/09/2021 17:54, Andy Townsend wrote:
>
>>> Historically the Ramblers (at least where I've encountered them, in
>>> England and Wales) have tended to use Ordnance Survey Maps rather than
>>> OSM.  There are exceptions (at least one Ramblers Footpath Secretary
>>> regularly posts to this list).  I've never quite understood this - in
>>> Derbyshire, Nottinghamshire and North Yorkshire, OSM has far more
>>> detail, and pretty much anywhere a tourist would want to go is in
>>> there.  There are some "rights of way in name only" missing from OSM,
>>> but even they are getting added*.
>>>
> >There are, I think, two main reasons why walkers in general still >prefer
> >OS maps to OSM.
>
> >The first is that the default OSM render doesn't give any visible
> >indication of rights of way, unlike OS which clearly highlights them. I
> >know the information is there in the data, but it's the standard render
> >which is "the map" to most people. And I'm not, offhand, aware of an >OSM
> >layer that is geared to the needs of walkers and does clearly show
> >rights of way. There are a some good layers aimed at cyclists, but none
> >that I've found that are specific to the needs of walkers.
>
> >The second is that having an OS map in your hand, or on your phone, is >a
> >very good answer to the question "what right do you have to be here?".
> >Because pretty much everyone knows that OS maps show the legal rights >of
> >way, and you can point to them as justification for using a path or
> >track. But OSM suffers from the Wikipedia problem in this respect;
> >because it's user-generated data you can never be 100% certain that >it's
> >accurate. As far as access rights are concerned, you still need to >check
> >with definitive sources if there happens to be a dispute. And OS maps
> >are, for most of the public, the definitive source.
>
> >Mark
>
> Continuing from the Scottish paths map thread, I agree wholeheartedly with the comment by Mark. I do a lot of walking, and am also a contributor to the OSM, but I generally use OS Explorer maps because it is so much easier to see the ROWs. 
>
> Using any of the apps that use OSM that I have tried, even ones supposedly for walkers, its really hard work (if not impossible) to see that level of information. Its not "in your face" as displayed on an OS map.
>
> This is a real shame and weakness of the system. We are all working really hard to put as much detailed information into the map - but as a consumer it is not easy to get it out again unless someone goes to a lot of trouble to create a specific rendering. 
>
> Rendering is not an area I know or understand very well. Does anyone know of a project to create an easy to use customisable rendering interface for naive users?
>
> Brian
>
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